TrainerRoad - Feature Requests of what athletes expect / want in the future

In the same vein, a button (or whatever) to adjust the plan when recovering from illness, to make sure you ramp up the training in a controlled manner.

I have currently had the flu and the workouts scheduled this week are way to hard to begin with after two weeks of illness and no training,

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nice request!!

In these situations I recommend using Workout Alternates if you think the workouts are too hard :slight_smile:

Didnt you get adaptation suggestions? :thinking: Any missed wo usually does that.

I agree with this. Ive been paying for coaching and have stopped for various money related reasons so likely to come back to Trainerroad. My chaotic life makes it seem almost pointless to follow a TR plan. However at this way I would psychologically feel like I am doing something useful.

A “life is chaos right now” button, plus a “I’ve been really poorly/injured” button to steady the ramp rate back.

I know we could use that cautious/aggressive thing, but it’s not the same!

I’d like TR to pay more attention to my smartwatch figures like steps/HRV/stress/sleep etc when considering yellow days. I just need someone to tell me not to be stupid…and if I ignore them, there will be yellow coloured evidence on the calander to show I have been a bad girl.

If I was a responsible grown up I wouldn’t need these things, but I’m not.

We typically recommend using TrainNow in those crazy life situations when following a plan isn’t practical.

This is a good way to get your workouts prescribed one by one in real-time rather than planning out weeks/months all at once.

Following a plan could work for a lot of people in these situations as well though since Adaptive Training should keep you on track, but if the idea of seeing a plan on your calendar and lots of adaptations is overwhelming, TrainNow is a great option!

My normal indoor setup consists of an Elite Direto Xr-T with TR running in ERG mode on my iPad.

I find that I am consistently varying intensity percentage slightly to make sure I hit the required power output from an interval. This isn’t an issue in itself, I appreciate the way ERG works combined with my Turbo trainer, particularly on short intervals.

As I have the Intensity graphic open so much, it often masks details of the session visually, eg session metrics and session instructions are blocked by the intensity graphic.

Is there any chance the intensity graphic could be moved (to the bottom of the screen??) to allow me to see everything a little clearer?

Cheers Chris

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I think my biggest feature request would be for TR to use the data from my wearable to account for work/family/life stress and recovery to even better adapt to my “meeting season” when for 12-14 weeks, I’m spending 1-4 days a weeks in high stress meetings, traveling, and/or eating and drinking for social reasons instead of training reasons.
Given the number of users with garmin/whoop/fitbit/apple wearables, it’d be interesting to review existing data to see what the most effective strategies are to navigate life stress vs training.

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Agreed. Sleep and HRV data are key missing ingredients for me. Having the red/yellow/green indicators are great, but they’re missing critical data IMO.

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My HRV and sleep score are completely meaningless to my how my training goes. I would hate for TrainerRoad to adapt a key workout down, just because my HRV was below normal.

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Not to mention that people with kids and jobs don’t have the luxury of rescheduling the day or the week just because we’re not at an optimal state of Recovery (as WHOOP terms it).

When the stars and planets line up, and you’ve got a chance to train - you train.

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Sleep and HRV don’t matter? :joy: :joy: :joy: :joy:

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Yep. Too often people use a poor sleep number or low HRV as the excuse they were looking for to back off of a key workout. Some of my best rides have come with poor numbers. Just have to push through.

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I would never base a training decision on them.

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Sleep is extremely important. HRV has yet to have substantial evidence for being important.

Maybe, with a highly accurate sensor and enough data it could inform training decisions but current wrist based sensors are not good enough.

Additionally current research on the use of HRV for training is not remotely conclusive enough to say that it matters.

One is far better off listening to their body over a number that their watch/app gives them to determine training.

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Maybe sleep scores would be useless, but the amount of sleep would have direct impact, me thinks. Especially the rolling average over the last 7 days.

Yeah, even though there is a correlation, I reckon other correlated factors (rolling average of hours of sleep per night comes to mind) that are likely much stronger predictors of training readiness.

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Sure, long term poor sleep habits are never gonna produce optimal training condition. But one night of bad sleep is not gonna end up producing bad physical performance. If it did, many of us would have good race days since we don’t sleep well the night before a race!!

Back in the day, we used our team mantra was “sleep deprivation does not affect sleep performance until 72 hours” when we did long drives for races. IIRC, that was based on an article in a cycling mag referencing some study or another.

It was admittedly a long time ago, and there are certainly updated studies since then, but I think it still generally holds true….one night of bad sleep is not gonna wreck your next workout or race. If it does, my supposition is that it is more mental than physical.

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If pushing too hard hurts me in the long run, I’d MUCH rather TR suggest a different workout. I suspect most of us have lost days or even weeks of progress because we pushed too hard when we should have taken it easy.

The whole reason we have red/green/yellow is that training at 11 every day isn’t the optimal strategy for long term goals.

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And the fact that some users will not want, need, or use feature X is no reason not to include it, if doing so would benefit (or simply please) a large fraction of the userbase.

All TR has to do in a case like this, is include the HRV feature, but add a settings toggle not to consider it for those users who don’t like it, and you have the best of both worlds.

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What should this feature be based on? As pointed out by others, current research on HRV for training isn’t conclusive enough to say that it matters.

Adjust training according to your feelings

It seems to me that TR does seem to attract those that love to geek out on training numbers, stats, and automated features. But I would advise people to do the same thing today as I would have told them 10 years ago before I had a device that told me my HRV every day. And that is, if following a training plan - and you have something on your schedule and time to complete, unless you are actively sick - get on the bike, do a solid warm up. If you just aren’t feeling it, maybe it is a good day to cut it and rest. Otherwise try your first interval, if still not feeling it, maybe change to an endurance day. Otherwise, complete your workout as planned. I have followed this for years, and been just as surprised on days when I woke up feeling tired, but was still able to to get my scheduled intervals done, as I am on other days when I thought I was feeling good, but once I got on the bike, realized I really don’t have the scheduled intervals in me today. And none of it correlated 100% with my sleep schedule, resting HR or HRV.

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I agree with you completely, but I also know other competing apps have included it, so I totally get why people are asking for it in TR. If you’re used to using one of those competitors and TR doesn’t have it, you see it as something lacking.

Again, I agree with you 100% and think your advice was spot on.

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