We’re releasing Levels and Workout Profiles next week. (Unless we hit a major bug)
I came across a rule for predicting timescales given peoples’ estimates:
- Take what your developers say
- Double it
- Upgrade the timeframe to the next level (ie days move to weeks, weeks move to months, months move to years)
so 7 days, = 14 weeks! 
(I really wish I could recall which book I read this in recently).
And then make sure you don’t fall afoul of Parkinson’s Law 
work expands so as to fill the time available for its completion.
Oh, you still hold them to 7 days… just don’t expect it for 14 weeks! 
In my experience, “management” will spend 13 weeks debating the project, finally green light it, then turn to the team and ask: “Why are you guys already 13 weeks behind”?
Yes and in week 14 you are busy making ppt and action plans to explain the situation and disucss how to recover the time lost. In week 15 you start working to your actual plan for the next 7 days and the job is done
Hofstadter's Law: It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law.
Hofstadter (1979)
I say 3 or 4 times.
We developers tend to over estimate out ability to do code and underestimate out ability to slack and go on side tangents while developing
Clearly need to be called “not so dumbbells”
Can I save money and get left only?
Like
https://www.fitbod.me/
But more aimed at cycling and hopefully better for body weight exercises and maybe add stretching moves too
As best I can see - and there are way too many posts to read them all - you have not given any indication as to when these new features will be available Telling everyone that AT is in beta, getting people to sign up, but then giving no indication when it will actually be available is frustrating to me. I want to use AT, I signed up immediately, but here I am still waiting and with no indication at all whether it is going to be days, weeks or months. Thats not good customer service.
Your podcast and training program are awesome. As a science person I appreciate the way you analyze and summarize the literature in a thoughtful manner. Im a bit confused regarding the adaptive training, I signed up for it but I dont seem to see any changes on my Iphone app or on my trainer road website or training plan? Has it started yet?
It is in a closed beta right now. Nate said on the podcast today that 130 people are in it right now. As they clear out critical bugs, critical areas of confusion and critical performance issues, they’ll add more people.
That said, barring major bugs, workout levels are coming next week.
… and developers often underestimate testing… always there is an underestimate of how long to properly test and apply updates… and retest.
A glimpse from academia: Great idea! lets discuss it in a separate meeting → Good discussion maybe we need to get people X involved. → Great input. We should discuss XY in more detail. → Have we discussed everything important? → This all sounds really good. Lets bring it up at the next meeting. → We need to discuss it a bit more.
I’m a big boy that likes to nerd out on the possible. Please keep sharing, if you don’t make a date or a feature becomes too complicated to implement then that’s how life works.
This thread seems to be the main “official” location for updates:
But we have seen posts in other threads that also share info on the progress.
- TrainerRoad CEO Communication - #188 by Nate_Pearson
- 🎉 🎉 🎉 Introducing Adaptive Training! 🎉 🎉 🎉 - #1705 by Nate_Pearson
Nate also gave an update in the 299 podcast, but it’s been pulled for a bit and I don’t remember the specifics, but there is info in a range of places.
I voted in the minority (currently 2%) , and here’s why: from the perspective of those ‘not in the know’, the marketing on this says “Adaptive Training is here, sign up now to get it”, and that’s misleading. I’d rather have no info than misleading info.
TR IG bio:
Two relevant post examples:
I would assume by the IG bio (and even the AT page on the website) that I can signup for priority access and receive it in the very short term. IG states that TR is using adaptive training, for all customers, right now.
I feel like those are unbiased opinions considering I personally haven’t been paying super close attention to the podcast OR IG for a while, the headlines and the email read like - this is here now come get it. Having not following as close lately I saw the IG bio and made the assumption it was released, the first 20 minutes or so of the announcement podcast only reinforced that this was indeed released.
Even if it is in beta, I then wonder do those that signed up for beta testing in the past (including myself) get put into the access queue, or is this entirely separate.
How I would actually vote:
- Nate keep being the down to earth, authentic & exceptional CEO that you are - who is willing to not only teach & share but also to learn in public and be so excited about the product improvements that are coming down the line that you can barely contain hinting at them.
To be fair, maybe you did this on recent podcasts leading up to this and I missed it. I know you did quite a while ago. - Share roadmap of what’s coming as you always have, just be open that it’s beta, and what that means. Open the podcast with “We’re releasing AT and this is how it will work for you as a user, when you can expect access” and THEN get into all the amazingness that is AT.
- Communicate every few days or weekly to those that signed up for priority access for such a big product release - You’re still on the list, we’re working hard to get as many people onto the platform testing as possible and here’s how
No doubt AT will be interesting. I’m super excited and curious to see how the levels especially will be adopted by the TR community as a whole.
Nice work TR. 
@Nate_Pearson, I do believe you had honorable intentions with both the launch podcast and the survey above. But I struggle with both. Coming from the highly regulated medical device industry it is always interesting to see what is allowed in less regulated industries. The most obvious point is that the launch material includes a very strong claim that cannot be verified: ‘The Right Workout. Every Time’. This is really an aspirational goal, but it is presented as a benefit of an imminent release. And in the podcast it was made pretty clear that the next release will only have a sub-set of features needed to even approach the aspirational goal. Which in turn forced the team to include a discussion on the roadmap (‘a plan for the future’). Discussions on roadmaps are fine in virtually every industry, but in regulated ones it needs to be clearly stated when something is ‘not available for sale in a specific region’. And that is the second point I struggled with as this distinction was not clearly made in the podcast or promotional material.
Now TR obviously does not need to conform to regulations from other industries (you did get on a slippery slope though when appearing to make health claims as part of the BHAG intro), but it is helpful to identify the pain points as perceived by a subset of users.
Keep up the good work!