So you could change FTP but the prescribed workouts are still based on old wrong FTP?You could share screenshots of your calendar and workouts.
Or could you not change FTP (look at the website under Account and then click FTP History link at the bottom of the page.
You can edit the completed workout and uncheck the option for TrainerRoad AI and Power Records.
I followed TR instructions as far as I could, then asked the help desk. There is no reason the app shouldn’t do this automatically - it’s pretty basic and fundamental lo an app totally based on power readings. I’m just a simple biker, not an IT expert . This should all be plug and play for a so called premium app.
The only point of confusion is that the stages bike makes the crank power meters visible over Bluetooth - if they were hidden from view then you would just link the bike like you are supposed to and wouldn’t be angry that the TR won’t let you do something that the manufacturer of the bike also tells you not to do.
Edit: we are so far off topic right now 
I don’t understand why over the course of my scheduled rest day, my predicted AI FTP dropped 5 watts. That is, after my Saturday threshold workout, my predicted FTP was 289 watts. Before today’s workout, following yesterday’s scheduled rest day, my predicted FTP was 284 watts, a 4-watt decrease from my current FTP. There was literally no change in data over that time period.
Moreover, as I mentioned in my previous post, I am struggling to find a plan that will give me any increase in FTP over the prediction window at all. My current plan is basically the default Demanding plan, though I have shifted the whole calendar two days forward so that my rest day is on a Saturday instead of Monday. I have tried different aggressiveness settings and settled back in at Demanding as the best / slightest decrease.
FWIW, this is how each setting would affect my predicted FTP:
Conservative: 277 watts
Moderate: 281 watts
Balanced: 284 watts
Demanding: 284 watts
Aggressive: 284 watts
Here is my calendar over the prediction window:
And here are the prior few weeks:
I have made my calendar public if you want to dig in more.
I listened to the two podcasts about the new release. I did hear @Nate_Pearson say that if I see decreases in workout levels in my forecast period, it could be because the system thinks that I am likely to be fatigued. That is what I see in my forecast, though that is not what I have experienced over the past month of training at all. In fact, if anything, I would say TR (mostly pre- this new release) has not been pushing me hard enough. My Whoop keeps telling me I should be getting more Z4-Z5 heart rate time. I only got 12 minutes last week: 6 minutes from my VO2Max ride and 6 minutes from my threshold ride Saturday.
I would appreciate any help.
Only with an accurate ftp, if it’s overestimating then SST can become threshold and threshold becomes vo2 max.
Xert have a tiredness/fatigue slider. I think that works really well and I wish TR would have something similar.
My calendar looks like it has jaundice, there’s so much yellow on it.
@SeanHurley - not sure if this is something you can help with?
Hey there. I spoke with our support team—it sounds like you have some unreliable data on a number of previous activities, which can make things a little tricky. We definitely don’t want you to waste your time or ruin your training with inappropriate workouts. That’s exactly the opposite of what we want!
You should have received a recent response from one of our support team members about next steps. Please let me know if you didn’t receive this response for some reason! They’re going to continue working with you to make sure things get sorted out.
So couple quick Qs, not sure if answered up thread…
Really excited to see how TR-AI will boost my training.
Now i have a new FTP - but if i understand the pod, it’s different from other FTPs. How do i set me FTP range on me watch to track my %FTP on outdoor rides? Is there a kind of conversion factor, or do i just use the R FTP to set the watch ranges?
Also my recommended workout tomorrow is showin 65% moderate, 33% easy, with a 2.5% failure rate, probability. But despite being the recommended workout, the detail says that that failure probablity means the session is NOT recommended? Not sure - I’ll do it anyway, but can someone let me know what i should be doing .
Cheers folks.
Hard to explain. Probably something for support.
(Not directed to you personally but more abstract speaking…It’s kind of funny that we all expect some plan configuration that gives FTP gains every 28 days…thinking longer about that…your example might become more common and people will get to accept little to no gains…otherwise we would all become monsters on the bike)
What I would try in your situation would be to delete my plan and then see the prediction change while manually setting 2 hard days per week and then adding endurance rides here and there…could be worth a try.
Not true. I have a Stages SB20, and you can connect to it both as a trainer and to the power meters (Left one) as the power reading source. But the only reason to connect to both is if you use an app to record that records % L/R (Garmin Edge, TP Virtual, etc. - but NOT TrainerRoad). The power total is exactly the same between the SB20 & the power meters because the SB20 already power matches to the crank power meters.
Try shorter durations or volume, I think there might be a limited number of VO2/Sweet spot/Threshold alternative workouts that give better performance for you >= 1 hour. You can keep your endurance or easy rides long if you want. This might be bias around the training plan, and if anyone can chime in I don’t think TR have a lot of traditional long workout range. I personally haven’t figured out why my FTP keep dropping either. I’m a climber phenotype so maybe r its AI trying to pick out less long power for FTP goal plan? This will take some fiddling around the custom plan builder. Given the new AI prediction, trying to see if a different plan based on your profile might be better/
Stages SB20 works fine if you connect TR to the bike (with the Ergometer icon), not one of the individual crank meters. You don’t need the Stages app
Since I was the first to posit a cog chatbot, here is the uncontroversial conclusion on the milk first vs milk last methods of making tea in the style of our doctor as provided by ChatGPT:
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Final Verdict (Evidence-Based, Obviously)
If your goal is consistency and damage control, milk in first is defensible.
If your goal is maximal performance and proper evaluation of the system, milk in last is the only method that respects the physiology of tea.
Milk-first drinkers aren’t wrong—they’re just optimizing for the wrong outcome metric. 
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I’m glad that’s settled 
I always wondered why TR offered the “cadence only” option for connecting to my power meter pedals. This makes sense now!
Where is that page located?
It’s a pinned post in the ‘TrainerRoad Software’ forum category.
I see what you are saying here. I would almost counter argue that by adding watts you can go longer with higher watts.
As an example, holding 65% for 3 hours at 250 (163) is higher than that at 225 (146), whereas holding 163 at a 225watt FTP is doable for 3 hours but will have a higher fatigue.
I will say, there is something magical that happens when you ride 4hours at a true endurance pace that can’t be replaced by harder and shorter rides.
