Fair point I have run many marathons at a decent level (2:47) so I suppose I can get away without a long run as I had 20 years of regular 20mile long runs before I took up cycling. 8-10miles max on top of my TT training is enough…wouldn’t race longer than 10k though. I think beyond that you would need the 2-3 hour runs and that seems to have a negative effect on bike FTP unless you are very talented or young…of which I am neither 
I do.
Rough running schedule During full on Tri season is:
Tues & Thurs - Medium distance run of 0:45-1:15. Easy pace. Sometimes add in strides. Once a blue moon one of these will be a workout w/ reps at Jack Daniels T-Pace, but it’s rare.
Fri or Sun - Long run of 90-120 minutes easy pace
Monday or Wednesday or Friday or Not at all - 30 minutes easy
Saturday - 20-30 minute brick off the long ride - Sometimes tri race pace, sometimes easy
Bikes are
Monday: Optional Lazy Mountain
Tues or Thrus: TR Workout per the plan (VO2/Threshold/Tempo depending on the plan)
Wed or Fri: 60-90 Z2 TR workout (Pettit like)
Sat or Sun: Long Ride
Swim usually Mon, Wed and Fri.
I totally agree with you on that one. To be a good runner, you have to find a way to run 5 or 6 days a week. My hierarchy is Days Per Week > Miles Per Week > Long Run > Fast Run.
Depends what you mean by “good” but I’d disagree with you there
Forest? That you?
Registration week for the Boston Marathon.
Anyone else hoping to get in this year?
I wish… Not fast enough now days…
I will put some miles down and see if I can BQ for 2024 (hopefully this time it doesnt get cancelled by a pandemic)
I have a qualifying time but debating on whether to register or not. I ran Boston this year and have Chicago in a few weeks. Told myself I would take a break from running after Chicago but feel myself getting excited with all my friends signing up. Have two more days to fight the urge.
So,
Earlier in the summer (spring else where but florida), I started struggling with my runs.
Its so hot and humid that I wasn’t able to recover properly. I had a particulary bad weekend where I was suppose to run 12 miles and ended with 11 and lost over 6 pounds of water, doing the last 3 miles on walk/“run”. The next day I didnt even get to half the bike wo. I just gave up…
So coach suggested going to the gym and use the TM. I was skeptical, because real runners are suppose to endure the weather and suck it up.
Well, 2 months later I can say that the TM idea was a great Idea!
My running is where I would expect. My cycling is improving FINALLY.
So morale of the story, dont be stubborn and use the tm if it is too damn hot and humid. It works wonderfully!
This is absolute bull-shit as you’ve found out. Same with “real runner’s don’t need to eat”. I’ve got a couple of friends who ran XC in college and will refuse to eat during anything shorter than a marathon (and even then it’s a couple of ounce of Gatorade and maybe a GU around mile 20).
I’m glad to hear you’ve found something that works for you!
Well… you gotta do what works for you. For me, when racing at high intensity, anything with sugar would give me massive cramping. So I had to survive marathons on pretty much water. For training and running a slower pace I could be ok but in races I pushed so hard I had to be on an empty stomach. Couldn’t even take in liquid sugar after the race.
I guess my point is you gotta do what works. Some can’t race well on an empty stomach. For me, not so much. Luckily there was no need for food (or even water) for a half marathon and under unless it was crazy hot.
Hey all, I have done a couple of searches on this and I haven’t come up with anything - if it’s been discussed previously, my apologies. I did a full-distance IM earlier this year (end of May) with a developing heel problem, and it just hasn’t been improving much. Strength is good, doing eccentric exercises to rehab it, and my cycling numbers are looking great, but I keep getting this point tenderness to touch around the medial and lateral parts of my heel. Underfoot is fine. Pinching heel bone (calcaneus) feels fine, no pain. Not affecting my gait. I haven’t run since the IM to try and let it “heal” to no avail.
One thing I’ve noticed is that wearing my “running” shoes like the Adidas Ultraboost make it much much worse. I’ve also noticed that these shoes have a really rigid external heel cup, which is similar to the shoes I was wearing previously when it started. When I wear open-heeled shoes, it feels better?
Thoughts? Anyone else with this experience? I want to do another IM next year, but this is definitely going to hold me back.
TIA!
Edited: including IM date for reference
A few running shoe brands have very stiff cardboard inside the back of the heel cup (or stiff edges to the back/sides of heel cups) and they can curve inwards to a varying degree. if that structure doesn’t match the structure of your foot it can cause issues.
Based on your post you’ve still been wearing your Adidas but not able to run? I would drop the current run shoe totally for now, then see if it heals , maybe get some PT or have a doc look at it to make sure you don’t have a deeper issue going on there?
We had a customer at the shoe store come in with this issue and she had to go to a shoe with a soft “bumper” type heel cup and straighter profile up the back.
I tried switching around between various brands, but I just didn’t realize that having a stiff heel cup was a common denominator between all of them until I pointed where it hurt to my wife, she reached over to the shoe, said “Well this looks like it would hurt then,” and I immediately reconsidered what was going on ;-D getting an outside perspective helps a lot
I’ll try that. I think an XRay is in my future, although I have no problems weight-bearing on a soft surface (like a thin memory-foam rug pad or a thick carpet), which makes me less concerned about a stress fracture.
Its the heel (like under your foot) or behind the heel closer to the achilles?
Posted in here before about lack of progress with running.
Since 2018 (infact today in 2018) when I got my first PM my ftp has gone from 167 to this year a high of 296 while my weight has stayed pretty steady. I have only ever done either SS base (LV) or one of the LV tri plans and even when I have been doing SS I still ran. My HM pb was 1.46 in 2017, its still 1.46 now.
I have also had some ankle issues since March 2021. In this time I have seen a couple physios who have just diagnosed over use injuries but despite a full month off, running on the treadmill, limiting to 20 min runs, only running easy IT NEVER GOES AWAY
This weekend I went to a new physio who very quickly diagnosed a new issue, my entire right leg twists as I run, there is little engagement of my right glute. When I was a teenager I broke my right ankle twice and then had a load of problems with it. There is a clear imbalance in my right and left leg, despite being right footed (and a very poor right winger) my left leg is much stronger.
I finally feel like I have a diagnosis and plan to start putting this issue right and make progress.
Posterior about 1 inch up from the base of my heel. Wraps around where achilles hits calcaneus. No medial or lateral malleolar pain. Bottom of foot/heel is fine
This sounds like the spot where the hill connects to the achilles. There is a bone there that hold everything together. There is a conditioned called achilles tendonitis. It can cause lots of pain. I suffer from it. Sometimes I have to deal with it for months, other for days. It kind of comes and goes depending on how much running I do. I have a friend that no matter how much he rest, he always have it.
I guess you have looked into PT?
Yep that’s exactly what I initially decided it was - achilles tendonitis. But it hasn’t recovered with rest and PT. And the strength is intact, with no pain when doing things like calf raises and walking. It’s point tenderness (to touch/pressure) that I think may be due to the pressure of rigid heel cups like those in my running shoes and SWorks 7 road shoes.
I’ve been doing the eccentric calf lowering exercises for months, and the Achilles feels strong. Going to try heel cup-less shoes and some SWorks Exos shoes for awhile (no heel cup) and see how it feels.