Remember Microsoft’s clippy? To me, it’s like that. I don’t need the system prompting me twice a day to make sure I still plan to do what I know I am going to be doing. Surely there’s a better way.
In my particular case, if I commute home at 4pm and and start my planned workout at 4.45pm, I’m getting the prompt when I load the TR app to do the workout! So you would know the affirmatie answer within a few minutes without prompting me. And if I don’t do the workout, it’s an 8 hour window until midnight when you’ll find out the answer anyway. How much difference does that 8 hours really make?
I’m also not sure I understand this. Optimise it how? The workout only needs optimising if I plan to do it, right? So if it needs to adapt after my commute, then just adapt it. What else do you mean by optimise?
And if I’m not going to do the workout, you’ll have that answer by end of day. If I wanted to proactively give you the info earlier, I’ll remove it from the calendar.
Tonight was the first time I’ve saw the feature and I didn’t like it. When I set up my trainer I just want to have one button to start the ride, I don’t want a pop up to tell me do I still intend to ride just as I’m about to start :-/
I think I may have found a glitch with this pop up. First of all, it would be fantastic if you could just close it and not respond. But unfortunately, it requires a response.
Yesterday, I replaced my prescribed training with a group ride. Typically speaking, I would edit the prescribed ride and change it to a group ride, then pair it up. Ideally, this would be done before going on the group ride, but in this particular situation I forgot to do it before going on the group ride.
When asked if I completed the workout, I wasn’t really sure how to respond. I completed a workout, but it was not the specific prescribed workout yet, because it had not been adjusted to a group ride.
I marked it as yes, with the hopes of being able to adjust it accordingly, but I think rather than being able to do that, it just thought I did a poor job at following the prescribed targeted watts. As a result, my projected FTP took a drastic drop.
You can open the completed ride, and in the bottom of the details there should be a display of what workout that ride was Matched to. You can click it and select “Unmatch from (workout name)”
I’m not 100% sold on the implementation of this popup as it stands.
I do think I understand the problem that it is trying to address - but I’m finding it a touch too intrusive.
My issue is that I do a lot of commutes to work so I get this message every time I commute on a training day.
Maybe some kind of volume threshold could be met?
I’d have little issue with this popup if the ride that triggered it was similar to, or would have a significant impact on, the planned ride.
But asking me if I’m still going to do my 1:30hr sweetspot workout because I did a 25min pootle into work seems overkill.
For context I am sensitive to this kind of thing - if I ever came face to face with the person at Strava that forced the “edit activity” popup when you open the app having previously done a workout then I wouldn’t want to be held responsible for my actions
I got the notification first time today after I ride outside instead of changing my indoor workout to a solo ride. It was handy, and prompted me to match the rides up I otherwise would’ve done manually.
Kept my ai prediction as expected so, yes I’d say it is handy.
Do you have planned rides that you don’t put in your calendar? Ie solo rides for the commutes you plan to do?
I know you don’t have to add them to the calendar, but you won’t get accurate fatigue management if ai prediction if you don’t,
@SeanHurley given the intent, maybe the notification should be tied to users who use FM and predictive FTP?
I used to put the commutes in the calendar, but found that time consuming and messy. Adding them as repeat workouts is great, but my schedule is not consistent enough so it always involves a lot of rearranging. I am considering going back to this just a means of avoiding the popup, but either solution adds more manual management to my training week which TR should just be able to handle.
They are 10 minutes each way and I didn’t notice any difference in what I saw for fatigue management or AI FTP predictions when having the “planned” vs just having them appear in the calendar as I do them.
I’d also put it this way - if all these new features require me to do more work to help TR differentiate between a workout and my commute, then the features have not been well considered.
Are 10 min commutes even worth including in TR? To me, they do nothing to help fitness, but I have no idea how TR considers them. I’d hate for TR to interpret them differently than I do and adjust my training because of it.
Possibly not, but they come in via Strava. One option would be not to record them anywhere, I guess. alternatively if the “Commute” tag could be excluded via Strava, but I think usually the workouts sync before I get a chance to set that anyway, so it might not work.
You can exclude individual workouts by selecting not to “include this ride in your Power Records and TrainerRoad AI”, if you wanted to do that for each one. But from what I’ve seen, you’re right, these rides don’t have much impact either way.
+1 vote at least for a toggle for this. As someone who commutes daily and tends to workout in the afternoons, it’s a daily annoying pop-up, on all open calendars at that.
I got it for the first time today when I’d just unmatched my scheduled solo ride from my morning commute so that I could match it to my afternoon commute that I’d not yet uploaded to strava. A little annoying, & it felt like just another thing I had to click out of the way.
Then, what I thought about it afterwards is echoed by this comment, so I think it needs to be stressed again:
I had that this week too. I unmatched a 10 minute morning commute from a planned 1 hour outdoor ride, then got the popup. I mean, I specifically unmatched it, so of course I’m still planning on doing it?
I’ve see this twice now when my Sunday long ride is outdoors. There could be an option on the pop-up to ask if you want to match the outdoor ride with the planned TR session
Hey all. If you prefer us not to ask whether you still want to complete your scheduled workout, we’ve added a toggle that allows you to turn this feature off. It’s called “Workout Follow-Up”, and is located in the Settings menu on TrainerRoad.com (not in the apps).
