You’ve clearly never used the Abbot Libre app/ecosystem.
Slightly O/T but if you’re T1 you could potentially reduce your cost significantly by getting the ONE on prescription and just paying for a G6 transmitter, even better get an Anubis.
Re ONE, yes, that’s why I mentioned it - the sensors are exactly the same so you can get the ONE (transmitter and sensors) on prescription and use them with a standard G6 or Anubis transmitter on whichever app you choose.
I assume you mean ‘full’ CGM on prescription (ie G6/7 etc) rather than ONE, as all T1’s can get the ONE, no criteria other than being a T1.
Re price, wasn’t insinuating you were, apologies if it came across that way. I used to self fund but between an Anubis and ONE sensors I now get full CGM for a near zero cost.
Anyway, thread derailed enough! I’ll be quiet now. 
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That’s not been my experiance, but I am overdue my review … are you in the UK ?
Just to point out we shouldn’t label people as their condition. They are people first so they are people with diabetes.
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Yes, Northampton area.
Thanks interesting, I wasn’t aware of this, I’ve not had my annual review for 2 years so will take this up with them when I get reviewed again (my doctor checked my HBA1c and other stuff)
Am I also a person who cycles instead of a cyclist?
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It’s worth following Partha Kar too if you don’t already.
https://www.england.nhs.uk/author/dr-partha-kar/
As the lead specialist advisor for diabetes to the NHS hes been instrumental in pushing CGMs and hybrid loops… he’s also quite active on whatever Twitter is called nowadays.
Probably and we are both definately pedants 
Though is cycling a “condition” …?
Maybe being pedantic is.
As you’re very pro the use of CGMs as a training aid and I’m not I’ll leave it there.
Building Therapeutic Relationships: Choosing Words That Put People First - PMC.
take care all.
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Fair enough, but I prefer “person who indulges in pedantry.”
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I wonder if targeting diabetics means they’ll allow users to bring their own cgm, essentially meaning that all they’re offering is an app, which I have to imagine would simplify or even completely sidestep the FDA approvals.
Blockquote Where’s the 10% FTP increase or the world/national TT podiums because a supersapiens was used?
Isn’t most of the Jumbo Vista team using it? They had a few wins last year…
I don’t thinks so……based on my experience, you’d still need FDA clearance for the app since it is providing some form of medical insight (even though the intended use is not to treat any particular disease).
I’ll see what my regulatory guys has to say about it.
Lots of pros are paid to use or say they use lots of stuff . It doesn’t mean that it helps them win or that the product is a game changer in any way for the amateurs it’s marketed to.
I’ve still seen nothing remotely scientific that indicates that a CGM is a game changer for a non-diabetic amateur athlete.
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You essentially asked if it works, then “where are the race results”. I pointed out that the most dominant grand tour team last year (and I guess ever) has been using supersapiens for 3 years.
The UCI has banned cgm use during races, which seems to suggest they think there’s some kind of performance advantage to be had.
I haven’t seen any scientific studies on their use in amateur athletes either, but the cool thing about cgms is that it’s pretty easy to try it out for yourself and see if there’s any benefit or new insights to be gained. For $75 a month you can get the Libre 3. That’s less than many here are spending on fancy supplement drinks and energy gels.
So, having a son that is T1 diabetic and having used the Freestyle Libre previously and now a fully integrated continuous loop CGM pump system, I’ve always been sceptical about Supersapiens.
Not least because my son will do a session on the turbo, go hypoglycaemic, take some sugar to get his blood sugar back in range and carry on just fine. So long as his blood sugar is in range, a higher blood sugar doesn’t make his performance on his turbo session any better. From his experience, blood sugar level and muscular energy availability don’t seem directly linked.
CGM pump systems for T1 diabetes along with the associated manufacturer apps, I think are already functional enough for athletes.
I’d guess most athletes with T1 diabetes will have enough understanding of how to manage their condition and related health without an additional non-medically approved system/app.
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Sounds like you just highlighted the point of CGM for athletes and why people want this.
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But is a normally healthy athlete is going to go hypoglycaemic on typical training rides? I’ve bonked once in the last 5 years.
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So there is a assumption there that “where are the race results” come from the supersapiens they also have a app which prescribes their food, and SRAM 1x, and wear yellow
Another assumption, well two actually, a) that the the uci think it has has some performance advantage, it could be that it s invasive and don’t want to go down the route of riders being loaded up with sensours, it could be that they want to discourage people bad dietary decisions based on miss informed analysis of blood sugar levels,
It fantastic for diabetics that these things have reduced in price and there now a drive to produce better and better systems, but comparing the supplements is %^%, to the most part you will just piss the supplements out, the CGM is going to give you miss information about your die
*** Edit
The reason I said miss information, is here is a list of 42 factors that can affect blood sugar levels, only 2 of them a carbohydrate, 9 are food related (this list highlights what living with diabetes really is like)
Also the assumption is that keeping sugars levels within a certain range is imperative and going above that will shorten your like and ruin your performance, that simply isn’t true or how the body works, diabetics need this information so they can take corrective action, actions that your body does automatically and is totally normal
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