Strava API Agreement Update

And Strava chooses today to send me an email about the launch of their new forums.

They really don’t have a clue. :laughing:

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Hi @Nate_Pearson, Are you able to comment on pulling activity data for Polar, Suunto, etc.? I record all of my activities on a Polar watch and currently those are pushed to Strava and then to TR.

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+1 to that. I record all my MTB rides on Suunto watch, and Strava is the only convenient way to pull those activities into TR. I’m pretty sure there are a ton of runners with Coros who are in the same boat as us.

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Possibly, they wish. What other corporation tried to say they ‘owned’ the data from their users? It was a few years ago. Can’t remember right now…

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Odd because one of the last things I’ve ever wanted was TrainerRoad workouts to show up in Zwift. Nope, never thought of that.

Makes me wonder if Strava is courting Zwift for a buyout.

Where their rules state you cannot ask them to rollback the changes.

“Note: Per our Community Guidelines and Guidelines to Ideas, posts requesting or attempting to have Strava revert business decisions will not be permitted.”

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My subscription isn’t renewing till July (I did it through Apple). But, I turned off auto-renew. Mostly was subscribing to support all the work they do and that they were the central hub to all my data. Didn’t really get much value out of the premium features. They definitely won’t be getting my money with this move. I’ll give it to companies that care about their users.

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Not odd at all, even if it’s not your preference. It’s been am ongoing request from many TR users for years.

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They haven’t shut it down so far

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That “you may not question our business decisions” arrogance is what pushed me over the edge to cancel my subscription, but to their credit they haven’t deleted this post about it (yet).

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Haven’t read all the posts, but if Strava thinks they ‘own’ my data, or something they cooked from my data, then I’m sorry no they don’t. I was on the Nike Fuel Band plan for quite a while, and they kept all my data (as far as I remember), and no one knew exactly what that data was based on to begin with.

My data is MY DATA! You can cook it all you want, but that doesn’t give Strava, or for the record ANYONE ELSE any ‘ownership’ or maybe more like ‘control’ of that data.

I was on 23andme, and they are circling the drain and I closed my account under the agreement that they will ‘delete’ my personal data. Now I hear they ‘altered’ the very agreement I agreed to the day I cancelled, saying they can keep the data. That’s hacking, that’s illegal!

My body, My data. Hands off MY data! If I let you accept my data, I still own my data! I still control my data and your use of it! I can remove my data from your service anytime I want to, and you can’t keep it: PERIOD!!

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Zero chance of that, IMO…post-COVID, I doubt either company is in the financial shape to buy anyobody.

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Same for me. I cancelled as soon as I read it.

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Been a Strava subscriber since 2014, but this anti-consumer behavior was enough for me to hit the cancel button. I’d much rather give my money to customer friendly companies like TR. Strava is redundant in my workflow anyways - I’ve got Garmin, TR and TP.

Bye bye Strava.

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It is pretty ironic to me that Strava is trying to cut off it’s competitors by limiting access to data that isn’t even theirs to begin with. If Garmin, Wahoo, Zwift, or any of the other various companies that actually manufacture exercise devices and process the data decided to cut Strava off, then almost no one would use the platform, since it’s native data recording service is terrible. All they are going to do is make less people use Strava, and force platforms like TR to directly sync with their competitors.

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What I’m understanding Strava wants everyone to record activities on their phones?
It makes no sense, I’m sure 70% of their users use something else to record data.
If I had the money and knowledge I would create a competitor to strava and take all their business.
They don’t own the roads we ride/ run on.

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Hi TR people, please:

  1. prioritize implementing Wahoo → TR direct sync (as already mentioned)
  2. consider investing in your Career section, growing it to include more summary features like those found in Strava’s “You” tab under their “Progress” section (i.e., make me feel good about my career progress in different ways)

Strava is sticky because of the social feed and segments. All the other features are watered down versions of things you can find in other apps. They’ve just centralized them in an attempt to scale their offering, but in reality these features suck in comparison to their competitors. Strava will continue to win on the social stuff, fine. But other products where users keep a log of their activity (like TR) can easily beat Strava’s progress-summary features. I’d wager a good share of Strava users care less about social features than they do tracking their “personal” career.

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What strikes me as really hubristic here is that Strava doesn’t have functionality to replace the apps it’s blocking. If there were some other app trying to replicate Strava’s workout/social network model with their data then sure, block away.

But Strava has no AI functionality that’s worth a damn, no workout plan builder/coaching, nothing that works as well as VeloViewer for visualization. So they’re preemptively blocking all this functionality in hopes that in future they can build that out? They seem to be trying to replace something with nothing.

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Honestly, I’m not so sure. Speaking only for myself obviously, but my other social media accounts are way more lively and have more friends than on Strava, so if TR/Zwift/whatever give me a nice pretty image of my completed activity and some stats that I can share I’d be more than happy to post that to Instagram or Bluesky instead of Strava. If they kill their third-party ecosystem, I really don’t think they have that much of a moat left.

(Segments I could see as not being as easily replaceable as their activity feed, but I also don’t think it’s out of the question that someone else comes along and builds a competitor.)

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Thanks for the reply @Nate_Pearson is there a short term work around for Wahoo users until the integration goes live?

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