I jumped on tonight and it asked for auto detection. It detected 261. I accepted and 10 seconds later the the prediction said that after my next 28 days I’m projected at 256. What’s up with that. I don’t think nor should it think I hit my ceiling I’ve been a memeber since 2016 so TR has loads of my data
Without more info there’s not much anyone can say to help you - can you share a screenshot of your calendar showing planned workouts over the next 28 days?
It’s worth noting that with no recent workouts (which I’m assuming from no recent activity) from what we’ve seen the AI is likely to be conservative even with a historic catalogue of data
Hello @dolittle63 
Per our forum guidelines can I share screenshots of your Calendar to see what my be going on?
If not, I recommend writing to support@trainerroad.com and we can help you directly!
Sure. You are welcome to dig into my calendar to find out whatever you can!
That’s interesting. The “no recent activities” is not really accurate because I have completed every workout over the last month as prescribed. Strangeeeee
Following up on this again, because it really makes no sense to me. I also just looked at my future calendar and it has for some reason planned a stretch of 5 days completely off the bike from April 9 - 13 for no reason??
Even more odd, the days off are the week leading into what it has labeled as a recovery week?
Looks like your coming up to your A race. It’s tapering you off before your race, your doing less time on the bike in the lead up to it. So perhaps that’s why it’s lowering your FTP a little. Not sure why you don’t have anything after your A race for 5 days but they are usually just recovery rides anyways.
Following up on this again, because it really makes no sense to me. I also just looked at my future calendar and it has for some reason planned a stretch of 5 days completely off the bike from April 9 - 13 for no reason??
Even more odd, the days off are the week leading into what it has labeled as a recovery week?
And now I am really losing my mind. I decided to just try to get rid of this Ai and go back to the tried and true plan builder, only to find it won’t let me add a B or C event, and is only letting me add A events, but is allowing it to occur only weeks apart…
Following up on this again, because it really makes no sense to me. I also just looked at my future calendar and it has for some reason planned a stretch of 5 days completely off the bike from April 9 - 13 for no reason??
Even more odd, the days off are the week leading into what it has labeled as a recovery week?
And now I am really losing my mind. I decided to just try to get rid of this Ai and go back to the tried and true plan builder, only to find it won’t let me add a B or C event, and is only letting me add A events, but is allowing it to occur only weeks apart…Hey @dolittle63! Apologies for the late response on this one.
A few things:
- TR Goal/Event based plans require an A Event to be built.
- The plan won’t schedule workouts after your A Event on that given week, so this is why you are not seeing workouts after it for that week. Normally races fall Saturday/Sundays and that’s why it’s more apparent here since yours falls on a Wednesday. For the days after your race you can pick AI Workouts if you’d like. I’d probably do an easy endurance ride the day after and maybe an interval workout on Sat or Sunday as you have a Recovery Week right after it.
- FTP going down. I would expect this specific prediction to not be a big increase because a) you’re in a specialty phase and not a phase where we target FTP increases or we recommend increasing them. b) you have a taper week, a race week with little to no workouts, and a Recovery Week. This kind of volume + type of interval work won’t likely set you up for FTP gains as the plan is keeping you fresh and peaked for your A Event.
All this said, even if your FTP goes down on detection day, we’ll still prescribe workouts based on your power data, so the workouts you will get will still push you the right amount. Plus, you’ll likely see an FTP increase on your next prediction Hope this was helpful!
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Is the partie city 1 race your actual A race or is it a training race? You may have set up your plan incorrectly.
Thank you. I see your logic here.
I don’t actually have an A race. It’s just another race and I was forced to pick on as an A I had thought, so I just picked that.
I’m pretty positive I don’t need a week off the bike after a 60 min MTB race. I think it might need a little ai training to realize this and give an endurance ride or two that following week.
It isn’t because of the race itself. It’s a break after your A race. If that race isn’t really your target then you may want to rebuild with the race that is your target.
By setting the race as your A race you are saying this was your focus for a significant time.
Do you a race that is the focus for you in Spring or early summer?
if you don’t change your plan it’s not going to update anything. Honestly if it’s a training race it’s probably a C priority, something you would train through.
I see your point. I just don’t really have an A race. I’m just trying to become fit again after months off from becoming a new dad. So I just put in the weekly series and don’t care to much if they are A B or C. I just will plan to add endurance rides in that 5 day gap as she recommended. It’s just weird because I can’t imagine ever needing 5 days off the bike after any 1 hr race. Ever?! Seems like the whole ai thing should imagine that too.
It’s because you said it was your A race. AI isn’t thinking about it at all. Caro earlier said that there are no workouts scheduled for the remainder of the week following an A race. It’s probably assumed you’d want a mental break after an A race.
A race are season ending races. You’d want a break after regardless of how long they are before your next season.
B Races have openers the day before.
C Races are races that you are training through.
It matters that you classify them correctly.
Thank you. That makes sense. I guess I need to truly sign up for an A race then
To be fair, this is partly on TrainerRoad as well. Normal planning always gives you a rest week after your A event, but TR doesn’t do half weeks so depending on when in a week your A race is you get extra days off.
The fact that he gets half a week of no rides is solely due to TR not really handling A races that are not at the weekend.
I would just schedule another plan builder at the conclusion of this one and either set up a new A race or just a time period you are looking to train for.
You can always add in B and C races to the calendar.
The time off is likely because you are training, peaking and the AI is expecting you to go all out for that race. It really should have been a B or C which is why you are getting that behavior.