Should i sign up to TR?

I used TR several years ago when the workouts were sweetspot heavy. I burnt out perhaps not because of the workouts but life etc…

I am 63y, FTP of 210 at 77 kilos (about 5 kilos overweight) my ftp having dropped from 258 ( measured on 4dp on Sufferfest/Wahoo) over last 4y after knee surgery and 2 abdominal operations.I have struggled to fit in any meaningful training the last 2 years but am back in the saddle with 2 week long camps planned in Mallorca and then Tenerife, 6th october and 18th of october later this year.

I can bumble on mixng up 2 longish z2 rides at the weekend, 2 interval based rides during the week and a mix of weight work to re build lost leg muscle. Or i could try TR and get on a 12 week plan. The thing is the AI revoultion leaves me unconvinced and i am not sure the plans are geared up to prepare a rider for a week long cycling camp. Iwould welcome users thoughts especially those in the vet category. Cheers

If they are still doing the 30 day trial then I would do that then make a decision if it will be of any benefit to you

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Are you doing your “rides” / workouts exclusively on a trainer? If not, I would hold off on signing up for TR for the moment. There is a nasty bug were TR AIFTP prediction & detection isn’t working accurately if you do workouts outside

Feel free to reach out to me directly if you have any questions.

As @TrekCentury mentioned, we do offer a 30-day money-back guarantee for new users.

There is a bug that’s affecting some athletes who do their workouts outside, but there are workarounds that can help.

Just shout if I can help you out!

2 long rides outdisde, intervals, sweetspot inside. I used TR previously so would i be a new user?

When did your most recent subscription end? It looks like it’s been a while..

Yep-several years. I will sign up tomorrow and let you know when i have.

@eddie All signed up, past rides assessed etc. FTP of 193. Training plan sorted and i started this morning. AI prediction is 214 ftp at end of 3 week base. Bit surprised to see i only have 3 1/2 to 4 1/2 hours riding scheduled during base period. I expected to do 5-6 hours z1/2 over the coming weekends. Any observations on the plan gratefully received.

We’ll make plan recommendations for you based on your recent training history, but you’re free to make changes however you’d like.

Depending on how much you’ve been riding recently, it might be wise to start small and work your way up over time. Structured training is usually more stressful than just riding around.

I have done a fiar bit of structured training over the years but never so little z1/2 base-lets see what happens.

Z2 is a great type of stimulus to add once you’ve got a feel for how this type of training is going to go. Those hard workouts are really productive and bring a lot of the benefits of Z2 training without the need for quite so many hours in the saddle.

I’d give your plan a shot for a couple of weeks to see how things go.

Stay in touch!

Just touching base to say a little over 2 weeks in and wondering about the impact of 1.increasing power requirements during a workout, and then 2.labelling it “hard”. See below. I upped intensity for the last 4 minutes because the workout, whilst not easy, certainly wasnt “brutal”, despite the title.As i say i then labelled the workout hard. Does that mean the AI will adjust workouts down, even though i adjusted up for the last bit? Or will the AI recognise i changed the intensity of the workout?

Hi Bob :waving_hand:

It should know that you increased the power - and you rated the work you actually did.

As an Over/under it probably expected it to be Hard.

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The TR guidance I’ve heard is to rate the work you did, not the work you were assigned. You did that, so you should be good.

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Hi Martin! small world isnt it ?

I rarely look in on CC-hope all is well with you.

Yep all good cheers. I still lurk on CC.

Be interesting to see how you get on here :+1:

Yes, it’s okay to increase the intensity of the workout, but just try to keep things in line with the intended stimulus of the workout.

For example, don’t turn a threshold workout into a VO2 Max workout.

Those workouts should feel hard, or sometimes even very hard, but they shouldn’t ever be all-out or max efforts. :+1:

Here are our guidelines for post-workout surveys if it helps.

How to Rate Your Effort

  • 1 - Easy
    This ride felt easy and non-taxing, requiring little effort or focus. You could repeat the ride and pass it without issue.

  • 2 - Moderate
    This ride was somewhat comfortable but required some focus to complete. You felt a little challenged but had confidence that you could finish. If the ride had an additional set of intervals, you could complete it.

  • 3 - Hard
    This ride required effort and focus and was challenging to complete. It felt tough, and you looked forward to the ride ending. If there were an additional set of intervals, you could have done it with significant focus.

  • 4 - Very Hard
    This ride was very difficult to complete, and it tested you. If there were one more set of intervals, you wouldn’t have been able to complete it.

  • 5 - Maximum Effort
    This ride was extremely difficult. It pushed you well beyond your abilities and took a massive amount of energy and focus to complete. You felt like you barely made it to the end of this ride, and that you had to pull out every mental trick in the book to finish. If you had to pause during a workout to catch your breath or adjust the power demand down, the workout was likely a maximum effort.

    • If a workout was a maximum effort because of external factors like illness, poor sleep, or fatigue, be sure to add that detail in the follow-up question.