I want to be clear, a red day AFTER a big ride/event didn’t mean you couldn’t do the event, or didn’t do well at the event, or you weren’t prepared for the event. It means you’ll need to rest after the event.
Im going to have someone reach out to you.
Yah, this is the answer. I think what you’re getting at is actual performance on the day, which is not RLGL.
Our next generation of AT does take into account minutes since last workout, so it might give you a different workout level in the morning vs the afternoon, probably not much. Just a few points. Like 4.1 vs 4.2.
We’re still working on that though.
This is a really good explanation of it! 
We just looked at Hannah Otto’s career with RLGL after the podcast today.
Here’s is interesting. Her pattern is:
- Periods of functional over-reaching where she’ll stack 4 yellow days back to back and then recover for a few days after that. She never pushes those into red days.
- Only has red days at the end of stage races or during some fun trips like huge bike packing.
- During race season she has zero yellow/red days. She’s managing her stress in more of a maintenance mode so she’s fresh for racing rather than building.
We’ll look a day ahead right now and change based on what you did prior to that.
We’d could assume that you did a bunch of work and try to adapt the next to weeks with RLGL but we’d have to make a lot of assumptions about your performance and I’m not sure how useful it would be.
Maybe though!
It is reviewing your unstructured rides through a performance lens, it’s just not impacting your progression levels.
Kind of splitting hairs here but it does care about the details of your ride.
Thanks - just resubscribed.
Awesome! Many thanks!
Nate has a hint for you:
Understood and agreed of course. My reason for talking so much about stage races is probably something almost no one else cares about. For years my goals were big 1 day events and TR did a great job preparing me for 1 day events in spite of that I A) don’t train that much and B) have poor consistency due to work and 2 small / constantly sick children.
My realization last year was that while I could achieve relatively good 1 day performance within those constraints, repeating it for say 6 days straight at a stage race is an entirely different story.
My constraints on time, kids, job aren’t going to be that different this year so I highly doubt that I’m going to come in with sufficient volume that I’ll have no red days like you’re seeing with pro athletes… but red or not I’m not going to let it get to me psychologically during the race. Regular people aren’t pros and very often aren’t ideally prepared, and that’s fine.
Overall I’m very happy with RLGL, this is a great addition.
Carried out my threat and did the 90min stretch SS workout, unsurprisingly it’s turned tomorrow from amber to red and wants to adapt to a rest day.
The last of nine intervals was not fun, but what I would have regarded as just a hard workout. I wouldn’t normally have rested tomorrow, I’ll see how my legs are.
RLGL is not predictive at this time. It does not look or consider the future, only what you have done and recommends the next day. RLGL is a recommendation based on the past. Only you know the future so can adjust upcoming rides accordingly. Red doesn’t mean bad and necessary to stop, it means warning.
If my Low Fuel or Oil Change light comes on I don’t immediately pull over. I consider where I’m going and when I need/able to address said warnings. It’s a concern but not an emergency.
Awesome to see this, Thank you TR! I had a look back over the last few months of my calendar to see how it applied retrospectively. Quite a few reds (about one every two weeks) & littered with yellows (some periods more yellow than not-yellow). Lots of things to blame for that, including but not limited to group rides, adding extra volume, stacking days together because of work constraints (see yellow annotations for crazy hours), stacking workouts same day (like a South Twin -3 literally minutes before the prescribed threshold) & generally just being a goose & a maximalist. 
However… I seem to have less yellow days than I think I should. I was particularly interested to see its response to some long rides in excess of 10 hours & 350 TSS. After rides on Nov 12 & Jan 27 I was surprised to see only a single red day after them, & a clear day following, such as on Nov 14 when I still felt a bit cooked & I had a go at Crag anyway, only to fail it pretty badly (but I find Crag to be a pig of a workout anyway so I wasn’t too bothered, nor was I surprised). I was still too torched on Nov 16 to finish Red Lake (probably also because of Crag).
Then last month, if I hadn’t injured my wrist on Jan 27, I feel I could’ve done some sort of otherwise-achieveable endurance ride on the 29th, but certainly not a productive threshold or sweetspot workout, so perhaps in both situations there should’ve been one or two yellow days after the red. Just bringing this to the attention of @ming & @Nate_Pearson to help fine-tune RLGL’s response to long rides.
Calendar screenshots for the benefit of other readers:
November 2023:
January 2024:
It is not a yellow day because you took a recovery day. (My understanding is) that this is not a fatigue monitor (how would it know that) but rather a training monitor. It is telling you to not go hard after a big day.
I agree @Nate_Pearson. Big days don’t seem to be handled with enough care. I’d expect Red day then at least 1 if not 2 Yellow days. No way 1 day off the bike means back to normal training the following day.
Why do you need more than one day off?
Have you seen the trainwreck over in the “Do I really need a day off” thread? 
It also now is on the PC App. Maybe the update that just downloaded, or it took some time for the apps the sync.
I know some get frustrated that shiny new features take a long time to deliver, but I appreciate TR taking the time to build the right tool and releasing it once it’s reasonably ready (obviously nothing is perfect, especially on day 1). Love this, the masters/high recovery plans, PB updates to allow more scheduling flexibility. Finally getting over some vitamin deficiency stuff and excited to resubscribe imminently. This is all super cool. Chapeau, TR team.
In October I had a 4.5 hour 350 TSS day. RLGL shows 1 red day for me also. On that day my CTL was 79 and my Form was 15. After my red day off, I could have done endurance of some sort, but I wasn’t interval ready.
I also had a 631 TSS day last year. For that I got a red the next day and then a yellow the day after that. For that event my CTL was 100 and my form was 24.