That’s like saying “The defense of chicken is oddly unexpected.” It’s a food that you are associating properties to which there is no evidence that it has.
For children. I went back and scrolled through adults and I don’t see it there?
Listed under Other Outcomes - there’s a supplementary file that details everything, but they only list the things they found
I’m a bit shocked myself, but probably shouldn’t be…
I’m not a vegan, but get where you’re coming from. I’ve spent the past 20 years working in the food industry in the US and harbor no illusions of what drives the ingredient decisions of major (and smaller) CPG brands. Hint: it’s not consumer health and well being.
“Eat real food, not too much, mostly plants” is a good general approach.
But then again, so is “Ride your bike more, hard on hard days, easy on easy days, get good sleep.”
Neither of those are sexy enough nor “scientific” enough to market an app or coaching business in this day and age. But they both work just fine.
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then as you know “Generally Accepted as Safe” and good for you, are very different. There has been a decent amount of double blind research and population studies that show you probably should opt for something else in your system, right?
Look I’m not telling anyone what to use. I’m not vilifying SIS, per se. I already said I use other products of theirs. Are we consumers or are we not? If I don’t like something in a product I have the vote of the purse by not buying it, which is exactly what I am doing.
If you carefully read my earlier posts about aspartame, I admit their might be a sports physiology reasoning behind its inclusion. But I can’t seem to understand IF it is a good thing or not. I’m willing to be convinced.
But having said that, it is still a substance I like to avoid in all my foods. To the point, I was and am still surprised that it is included in sugar ladened sports / performance nutrition.
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Chicken is a whole food humans have eaten for millennia.
Aspartame entered the marketplace in the late 70’s a believe as an artificial sweetener that is 200x sweeter than sugar.
All I am saying, and have been saying, is that I don’t understand (and I wasn’t pointing fingers at you; if i replied to you up there directly it was not intentional) is why we need a defense of an additive rather than a proof of why it actually improves performance, if it is included in the product.
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Yeah, I totally agree.
Mass amounts of dextrose in day to day life aren’t super for you, we all know that. But on the bike its amazing.
Maybe there is in fact a reason for aspartame in exercise supplements? I can’t find one that is convincing.
Moreover I don’t see a performance benefit right now.
I know that was a claim someone made. I would argue that that is not an explanation.
But I don’t understand it when the product in question has 37g of Carbohydrate / 40g serving. Plus similar products from other companies don’t contain it.
Dude, c’mon.
ok, maybe that is unfair. But, i mean…defending an artificial sweetener? It still seems weird to me.
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Because no one is. There’s literally a thread full of people saying you can’t draw a conclusion from the available data, and nobody saying aspartame is good for you.
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I’ll look at this closer later, but I believe the included studies only looked at lipid profiles as an intermediate cardiovascular risk factor…
Either way, I’d still prefer to live by the final two sentences of the aha link I previously posted.
Your initial post seemed to suggest that artificial sweeteners were actively bad for us, not that they didn’t increase performance.
Then that is my fault.
I don’t think they are good for human consumption at all in a non-exercise daily mode. I stand by that.
Ergo, I don’t want them in my sports supplement unless someone can prove to me benefits. Again, I was surprised to see it in a sugared sports electrolyte supplement.
The fact that they are left out of Beta-Fuel, Maurten, Perpeteum etc makes me think that there may be no performance benefit?
Thanks Professor. I will stay away from this product.
I will also check out their Gels.
I will consider going back to Maurten. However they are super expensive.
What other gels (vegan) do you use?
P.S. Fellow Vegan here (not that it has anything to do with the content)
I’m testing out the hammer stuff now. almost all their gels are vegan save the nocciola i believe?
I still use SIS REGO recovery because it is soy based and seems to work pretty well. I usually blend it with a 1/2 cup of frozen blueberries for the antioxidant hit.
The fake Maurten/beta fuel threads on here are good stuff, but I’m too lazy to make my own stuff for now. Maybe next season.
I remember when Torq first came on the scene - they were involved in some mountain bike events and I could never get on with their products. Never gone back, first impressions I guess but maybe I should try them again.
I had some Veloforte samples with the last order of bars - very delicate flavours but can only be bought in individual sachets. Great for travelling but seems terrible for the environment!
I’ve been using Hammer products exclusively for 1.5 years. They are great and the only complaint I have is their price.
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No you aren’t. Don’t lie to us
Kind of seems like you’re vilifying here…
There is still no conclusive proof that Aspartame has a direct relation to any disease or disorder, but the OP has his mind made up that he doesn’t want it because its not good for you. Lots of things aren’t good for you, perhaps an Ital diet is in the future.