I’m one of those Ramp Over-Testers. On the pre-AT plans, I would do the Ramp Test, use that FTP, and struggle mightily with every single Sweet Spot or Threshold workout. Eventually I started adjusting my FTP down by 5%. This made the sustained power work more manageable but I always wondered if I…

[image] Bikeguy0: I’m not a subscriber Generally speaking, higher Workout Levels include both changes to power and number of intervals (or time in zone). However that is also true within a workout level. For example a level 1 sweet spot workout could have you do 30 minutes of intervals at 80%…

[image] Wheatstraw53: Will AT be able to use this to produce helpful workouts and performance improvements? That’s the question I’d like to focus on. Yes. But from my experience, if you’re just starting with AT your PL (progression levels) might still be some way off and a lillte nudge in the…

[image] Bikeguy0: Maybe a side note but I hate the term “over tester” on the ramp test. This denotes that there is something wrong with you. That isn’t the case…there is something wrong with the ramp test. What it’s telling you is that you have a higher anaerobic contribution when completing a 1…

AT will work exactly as you hope it will. Sure it will take a few weeks of training and responses to adjust but you’ll absolutely find that more workouts are both achievable and beneficial the longer you use it.

My Last ramp was in July, since then my PL levels are shown below: [image] I’m not training for anything cycling related, no real interest at moment to progress upwards. I have no TR plans in the calendar and basically use TrainNow. Aim is to stay around this level with reduced workouts, 6 hours a…

[image] FatherDamo2: I could take a ramp and maybe exceed my current FTP but think this would reset my PLs to level 1.0. I like the option for them to reduce. That shouldn’t happen anymore. After my last ftp change they drop about 1-1,5 points.

[image] bbarrera: Agree, and it leads to people hand waving it away with “ftp doesn’t matter” and “Adaptive Training fixes that.” From where I sit this topic reduces TR credibility, because of web pages stating the ramp test is the most accurate test. I’ll buy most repeatable test, but not the m…

[image] OreoCookie: I don’t think anyone at TR has officially said that the multiplier is exactly 75 % for all people, quite the contrary. They imply it every time they say “My FTP…” after talking about a ramp test result. It happens all the time and gives the wrong impression.

[image] jjmc: Plenty of people have a great sense of setting up successful training according to their own definition of FTP. But it is highly nuanced that way. Progression levels are just simply a better objective metric across more than just one zone. And as AT improves in assigning progressio…

[image] jjmc: They imply it every time they say “My FTP…” after talking about a ramp test result. It happens all the time and gives the wrong impression. That‘s like complaining that you can‘t put together your new IKEA shelf, but you refuse to read the manual. The importance of adapting your…

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That shouldn’t happen anymore. After my last ftp change they drop about 1-1,5 points.

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