#Septembernal?
If I was a manager and the choice was Bernal or Kuss for my team, I would pick Kuss 10 times out of 10.
100%
![]()
![]()
![]()
Damn…Jumbo news popping off all over the place today!
Wonder what this does to the rumored merger, if anything? (Edit…will go to the new entity. Guess I shoulda read the articel more closely the first time.
)
Wow! That’s big. Who “delivers” results? Amazon! We deliver.
I haven’t taken all the merger talk seriously because it’s seemed too absurd. Surely of any team Jumbo could find a new title sponsor without having to go to such extreme measures as mergers. On paper, the Ineos and Lotto merger also made much more sense given Lotto is trying to reinvent as a GC team and Ineos desperately needs a rising GC star.
All said, where there’s smoke there’s usually fire and there’s starting to be more smoke than I can dismiss away.
I’m sure you’re probably right…but worth noting that Egan is YOUNG (which I forget since his and GT’s TdF’s feel so long ago). There are lots of reasons to doubt him, and his TdF victory was kind of strange circumstances (though lots of GC wins are)…but he’s only in his mid 20s, he’s not running out of road to get back on that progression.
Like we didnt get to see if he would be caught by the best descender in the race.
JA had a magical run but he was cracked on that climb and Bernal put three more minutes into him the next day, but sure, yes.
I guess I’m slightly more negative, not because of age, but because of lost training time. He’s spent so much of his prime growth years trying to get back to his baseline that it’s hard to imagine him making that leap at this point
I hope I’m wrong. Not only would I love to have another top tier gc rider in the mix, but losing such promise to injury is heartbreaking
I’m not sure Roglic is old enough to join Israel Premier-Tech ![]()
You never know, not like Bernal is known for his handles
He’ll be part of their new “youth movement”. ![]()
Must be hard to Jumbo Visma to go find sponsors when their asking price is so high.
They’ve established a whole system that requires an enormous budget. I bet there’s a bunch of companies that would be banging on the door, but not many with the right number of zero’s.
He actually kind of is known for being a great bike handler.
Was discussing this on another baord and the cost / value of sponsoring a top-level soccer / futbol team. Fly Emirates pays ~$70M / year for the Real Madrid sponsorship.,and it is still called Real Madrid. ![]()
For ~1/3 of that cost, you could be the title sponsor of the dominant cycling team and they would call it the Fly Emirates Cycling Team. Now, there are a whole other slew of factors that go into the decision (reach of soccer vs. cycling, etc), but it seems a pretty good “value” proposition could be made for cycling over soccer.
Would love to see the actual proposal numbers for both…
While Jumbo has a big budget, they’re definitely not the biggest. No one has exact numbers, but they’re probably top 3 behind Ineos and UAE.
On this topic, I think people (not necessarily you) lean on the budget too hard as if it somehow caveats the team’s success when that’s not really accurate. Jumbo didn’t buy their way to success, that’s the UAE method. Jumbo has largely developed talent within their team.
Primoz was a nobody when he joined Jumbo in 2016. Kuss’s only results were in Conti-level races in the US when he joined in 2017. Vingegaard was supposed to be a domestique, and while the story of him working in the fish factory is overplayed his biggest success before joining Jumbo was getting a particularly noticeable Strava KOM.
Lastly, while Primoz clearly didn’t make many U.S. fans during the Vuelta and him leaving the team does make sense for everyone, I sincerely doubt he would be leaving on bad terms. No single rider on the team can be credited as much for what Jumbo is today than Primoz. He was the engine that propelled Jumbo from irrelevance in 2016 to near super team status by 2020.
Time moves on and Plugge is no fool so of course he needs to focus on retaining Jonas over Primoz, but internal to that team I’m sure they all recognize the role Primoz has played in the team’s evolution.
Well this is an interesting wrinkle….