As a self employed uk person, I’m having to say goodbye to TR after about 3 years using it. The British pound is now almost equivalent to the US dollar in exchange rate. What last year cost me £150 plus exchange rate charges is now going to cost me £185 plus exchange rate charges. This will now mean that the $189 annual cost costs me pretty much £189. With our ever increasing fuel and fod prices i can no longer afford TR. Such a sad state of affairs to be in. Goodbye TR :sleepy:

And this is why I just made the decision to quit TrainerRoad after 6+ years(even with a grandfathered $99 annual plan it’s not worth it to me) workout levels V2 is still not here. AT not accounting for outdoor instructured rides or rides on other platforms is useless to me. I’ve also been waiting for group workouts to come to tablet/iPad but that’s been about 2 years now. Oh and no outdoor workouts for my hammerhead either. I’m afraid they’ve continually over promised and under delivered and it’s left a sour taste with me. Sorry TR team, it’s been fun and I like you all but I’m outta here

You going to go to another platform, get a personal coach or do you own thing?

I hear what you’re saying, and maybe if you’d been paying the full price this whole time on the proviso you’ll be getting these updates then of course you’d feel a little cheated. But at a price of $99 which you were happy to pay for the service you were getting before all of the updates (AT and AIFTP etc) then its still an amazing price for the platform as it was, let alone as it is now. If you don’t use it much then sure, you’re quitting because it no longer suits your needs, but to quit on the back of “over promised, under delivered” at $99 seems a bit drastic to me. Personally, I’d carry on paying $99 a year if it never updated again :sweat_smile:

Yep, I hear you. $99 is good value but after 6 years it’s a little tedious and it’s just kinda irked me like I said. This isn’t about the money….so probably in the wrong thread, but at the full price I would absolutely never have paid that exchange rate drop or not.

Gonna do my own thing, dip in and out of a few different platforms and I intend to ride outdoors more. I’m confident I can self-coach as I’m not super serious and I don’t race or anything like that. I will probably use Xert and intervals.icu for info and ftp numbers when I want to fine tune for events as I’ve found them to be spot on and best for analysis. Just wanna clarify that at the $99 I was paying was tremendous value, but 6 years on I need a change and TR isn’t giving me that anymore. I’ve stayed the last few years due to upcoming changes that I loved the sound of but have never materialised! I do think other platforms offer as much and more than TR especially if you half half a clue about training so at full price it’s absolutely not worth the price imo.

Should’ve hedged against currency fluctuations then lol

[image] SarahLaverty: revamping Workout Creator is not currently in the pipeline. [image] oldcyclist65: And yet i remember reading a TR post on here over 3 years ago saying that it was on the roadmap for an update… Both could be true, depending on what TR folks mean by ‘roadmap’ and ‘pipeline’. To me, ‘on the roadmap’ == ‘we have an ambition to do it, and know roughly where it sits in our list of priorities’, whereas ‘in the pipeline’ == ‘we’ve actively starting preparing to develop this’. The problem is they’re vague terms that different people use in different ways, which doesn’t help with managing expectations. And of course, if it’s more like the former, then priorities do change, and some things will end up getting dropped.

"One solution is for these countries to adopt the US dollar " Another solution would be for the US to drop the dollar and adopt the euro, after all the US us just one country. :joy::joy::joy:

Although the wait for workout levels V2 is getting pretty tedious - Nate was involved in some discussion on here and liked a post I made back in the spring (April maybe?) about how I presumed they would be keen to get it out for the northern hemisphere summer, yet here we are 6 or 7+ months later with no sign of it. They keep mentioning it on the podcast so I keep checking in here for any updates, and still nothing. If you believe what they say on the podcast it sounds like it’s at a similar internal beta status to where v1.0 was when it first came out, but it’s sounded like that for months and it doesn’t seem to be going anywhere :man_shrugging: I also work in software and we simply wouldn’t have talked about such a high profile and in demand new feature in the terms that TR have been using unless it was literally ready to go, as it just annoys people. We have highly in demand new features and models and I am always careful to be very circumspect about where they are at (although to be fair, the specific areas in question relate to ongoing scientific research so it’s relatively easy for me to just point to the in-progress experimental programs). Unless I know for sure that they will be in the next release! “We are working on it but I can’t give you a release date” = OK, sure, keep us up to date “We are all using this amazing new feature internally and it’s absolutely game changing [basically what Jonathan said on the podcast] but we won’t give any timeline for release” = annoying

I Said a very similar thing in a thread about outdoors workouts (just wanted to add weight to your post) where the response was “we feel it’s the best way to share out roadmap”, the idea that one item with one response “WLV2 is our develpors highest priority” is questionable, as looking at this weeks release notes, “more tweeks to when an how you can use AI FTP” also seems to be “the developers hightest priority” I do find myself skipping over TR staff posts these days, thankfully we have Chad McNeese [image] Matching an Outdoor Ride to a Workout TrainerRoad Software I agree, doing a quick search of “highest developer priority”, I found this post from Dec 2021 where Which is very similar to the update in this thread So when you see posts like about a feature you would really like to see, I can’t help but think “don’t hold your breath” Agreed, but nobody is asking you to do that, as a software developer, I fully get that software is none linear and to be careful about setting expectations (especially in systems like the ones that I work on where peop…

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