- Never. Without physical steering, it would last about 5 feet max before they fall over

Now the real question for those who are getting one: are you waxing your chain?!
Iâm very pleasantly surprised at the pricing. My only âwantsâ would be:
- Split stay as @mcneese.chad indicated to allow the use of a belt drive (or better, come with a belt drive as standard to remove needing to lube the chain and reduce noise)
- Someway to be able to use this with the InsideRide E-Flex
- Similar Kickr - not the Core - bundle
- Ability to âshiftâ with any app, not just Zwift
I donât think Iâm the target market for this, but I kinda dig it. If I could get the standalone frame and the cog to put on my existing Kickr, Iâd get one just so I can share it with my spouse (even though itâd mean having to sell my Kickr Climb). Hell, I wish I could get that handlebar setup on its own to put on my trainer bike, itâs kinda neat.
My thoughts exactly. Belt drive paired with a Kickr v6 Iâd pick up one for this winter without a second thought.
I totally get why Zwift ditched physical steering, but that is a bit of a killer for my preferences. I am an outlier here, but love the motion I get from a free steering input. I used a swivel plate even on my old rocker plate when it didnât really do anything. But with the E-Flex, it is directly connection to the motion and I would miss that greatly.
So not a solution for my taste, but this will likely be great for the vast majority of users. It will still work well on a typical rocker plate so people can get lean & fore-aft via the regular rocker designs.
Got to do it for the content and memes now!
And am I the only one who waxes their chain on their dedicated indoor bike? I usually lay down several Hefty bags flat under the drivetrain after a waxing for a few rides to catch all the stuff that flakes off.
- Insert aintnobodygottimefordat meme.
I just run the wet Silca lube with a wipe and reapply about 1x per month on our indoor bikes. Minimal hassle and I fail to see enough benefit to waxing in this use case to justify the wax associated work.
The other big limiter I see as of now for this taking over smart bikes is the virtual shifting. I get why it is that way, but smart bikes all offer open app & shifting use, so that may be an issue unless opens it up down the road.
The minor issue on single-length crank on the Zwift frame is a potential limiter too, but that may be addressed by Zwift or add-ons in the future.
My process is a combination of using the Silca Hot Wax every ~1000 miles and the Silca Wax Chain Lube every ~~200 miles or so.
More or less comes out to reapplying the wax lube every 1-2 weeks and dipping in the hot wax every 1-2 months depending on miles rode.
Doesnât mean some dyot wonât try it for the clicks⌠![]()
I do wish they had done something to easily allow belt. Split frame does add cost and complexity. Elevated stay is essentially free but I can understand the cosmetic aspect at the very least.
Just starting some research, but one (rather costly option) does exist for split belt and normal belt path
Hereâs hoping that @gpl might take the plunge if we find some decent option that isnât overly expensive or difficult ![]()
I think another underrated plus, for me, is the aesthetic: it looks like a nice aero bike on a trainer. That definitely helps with the immersion factor and whole âlook good, feel goodâ dynamic.
A lot of the top smart bikes look like spin bikes and or something that doesnât really resemble a road bike.
FINALLY someone did this!
I am perplexed it took this long to push this to the marketâŚ
I mused with this idea (probably many other did as well) for yearsâŚ
HOLLY F!
the price is trainer AND frame! insane! this is an absolute market changer!
For the life of me, I canât remember the name or find via search, but there was UK seller that had a simplified and adjustable frame for trainer use. It used a regular drivetrain since virtual shifting wasnât part of the equation as one key difference here. It was also rather expensive IIRC and more utilitarian look vs this polished version. All part of coming from a very small maker, but there was an option that actually went for sale.
Found it: - New 'Zwift Ride' Smart Frame (June 12, 2024) - #76 by mcneese.chad
Disappointments:
- Non-standard square taper bottom bracket? Why? Why not go with a standard T-47 bottom bracket that would allow users to swap to any crankset / change the crank length?
- 42cm wide bars
Why not changeable width bars like Canyon has gone to? Or at least something more realistic like 40cm bars - still too wide for me, but better than 42cm bars
Where did you get this info?
- Lama mentioned he planned to dive into that and I have not seen specs elsewhere.
$$$ - I have not seen an adjustable width road bar that is anywhere close to the likely sub $30 cost they have into this option.
- As to the 42cm selection, this parallels what I see on most stock 54-56cm bikes. Right or wrong, this follows that trend.
@dcrainmaker article in the Riding with it section:
That said, for those with enough bike wrench geekery in them, you can technically swap out the crank arms which are square-taper, however the bottom bracket isnât standard, thus Zwift highly doesnât recommend doing so. But again, thatâs beyond most people. [bolding is mine]
Well, that is lame. ![]()
The price is really good some things irk me the non adjustable cranks and the handlebar width. If the virtual shifting gets supported by more platforms it would be an option to replace my suito.