Maybe for you, but certainly not for everyone?
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I’m just saying that the usage of the phrase utterly useless implies that it’s useless under all circumstances, not just for you.
I agree that the plans that are out there right now don’t work for me either, but they certainly could work for a large group.
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What, that’s just crazy talk. 
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This all has to do with their new launch of the new plans. I think they are in the process of launching:
- Low Mid Plans
- Mid High Plans
- Polarized plans - These in fact, I was able to find while looking for the others by changing the numbers on the URL. Others found them in the Ramp Test:
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I think most people were probably taken back by this rather than your genuine and valid concern. The whole “let me speak to a manager or I’m taking my money and leaving because this is unacceptable” attitude doesn’t get you far anywhere
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Gold!
really hope you’re not on Pacific time… thanks for the update!
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Thanks Sean, but I am still unclear. Are the plans out there accurate or not? If they are not accurate, should we avoid plan builder/changes until we get the all clear? More specific direction is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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This is what I am interested in and the part I am hoping could have been cleared up in the first 24 hrs of the Azure failure. I don’t hold TrainerRoad accountable for the situation but clarity on this would go a long way.
voicing an opinion on a feature that is released accidentally and in incomplete form doesn’t seem that productive to me.
But hey, what do I know
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Well, users could benefit from a service that has some redundancies built in.
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Actually I was thinking about this the other day, I think there are (at least) two kinds of people here; a purely transactional relationship and people who have “bought in” to more.
Certainly I see myself in the latter, I like the company, I like the community on this forum, I like the podcast presenters and have interacted with them to some degree individually.
From a purely transactional point of view, frank criticism would seem appropriate, but to others it will appear short, abrupt and in some cases rude.
I suppose neither group is correct and neither group is incorrect, but it does explain the conflict on these threads.
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Let’s take a moment or two, some deep breaths and refocus on the thread topic, please.
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Edit: beaten to the point by someone much quicker. At least i’m back in normal cycling territory.
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Again… moving on… horse is dead.
I’d rather not start flagging and editing posts.
Last warning.
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Tbh I’m excited for the plan changes (though I won’t change over until I have AT) because I think they address a lot of questionable progressions and high fatigue moments.
As someone who does a mid volume plan M-F I think they will leave me feeling better on the weekends and hopefully just as fast.
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Annnnndd they’re back 
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Agreed. MV now seems more time efficient - I don’t have 90m during the week for what used to be VO2 + z2. It’s much more in line with the LV+ I’ve been doing and still seems manageable workload.
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It’s in SSBMV1 week 4, no? At least that’s what I see on the web site now.