Ive done it in the last 14 days but the estimation button is there for me. Of course when I click it, it tells me I can’t get an estimation but the button is there.
Did you select into the early access?
Ah that could be it. I did schedule a ‘test’ ramp test as soon as it launched to see if it worked. Thanks
ok, well that’s odd, because I don’t have the button at all
I just added a ramp test to check. All good here.
My estimate took 5 days of “processing data“ before it gave me an estimate. It’s a known issue. And then, after taking 6 watts off, it gave me a “stretch” sweet spot workout 2.5 PL above my current. In other words, (a) “you’re a weakling” and (b) “now ride harder than you ever have on your next workout.” 
Hope you get it sorted but given the way its setup on mine if its enabled (in Account-》Early Access) you should see it but given the whole thing is beta nothing can be sure 
Just to be clear - you are looking on the app and not the web. Its only there on the apps.
I’m going to try a quick analogy to see if we can get better understanding of FTP and how it relates to Progression Levels. Think of a performance sports car:
- Horsepower for the engine is 200hp (proxy of FTP)
- Transmission is a 6 speed manual (proxy for Progression Levels of the rider and workouts).
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In practice, we start with the 200hp and 1st gear and get used to driving the car at that speed and gear combination. This is like doing a workout at a 200w FTP for a 1.0 PL workout.
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As that goes well, the next week we shift from 1st to 2nd gear, while still having the same 200hp engine. This gives us more speed in that higher gear (2.0 PL workout, with the same horsepower (200w FTP).
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Rinse and repeat until you are maxed out in 6th gear with that original 200hp engine, and we have full control with that max gear and engine combo.
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At that point, we decide to “upgrade our engine” for a 250 hp model. This jump in performance means it’s a good idea to reset to 1st gear again, and learn to feel what it’s like to use this same old gear (workout) with a more powerful engine (higher FTP).
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We revisit the same gears (Progression Levels at the lower value) with the new ability (higher FTP). Repeat the progression from one gear to the next (PL’s) and get better all over again with that new power.
Does that make sense to anyone but me?
It was partly in response to yours. But maybe I am misreading your comment and the question at hand here.
Maybe, but I was trying to consider one car like we look at one rider. There is a rev range of the car (0-8000 rpm), that may be considered a bit like our range from Endurance thru Anaerobic. I left out the revs aspect to try and keep it super simple, but I think the parallel is more useful with that in consideration.
Regardless, I just wanted to try something different and if it doesn’t work, no loss.
While I understand the analogy, bobw replied to me with a similar one in the Absolute Progression Level thread:
In my two years before and after TR can honestly say I’ve never experienced the need to change planned intervals after experiencing a welcome but unexpected bump in fitness. I just keep doing the work 
I am sure someone else gets it…but it isnt me.
Yeah, if we are talking about a “wrong FTP” issue, that is a different beast than what I was trying to get at.
If I understand what you are saying, you do the same type of intervals, but increase the power as fitness increases?
Nothing wrong with this at all. But you need to be dialed into what your fitness is in terms of FTP (40-70 min power), and also what to set intensity at above that for VO2, etc. Knowing you and that you’re working with a coach, I understand that is definitely the case.
TR takes a different approach. Set the intensity, increase the duration at that intensity as fitness increases.
Work goes up in both cases, just a different approach. In the TR approach, you don’t need as tight a knowledge on the intensity setting in a classical sense. You build into that.
I used the CTS system in 2016-2017 and started with HR, then a power meter for the second season. Built more fitness purely with HR than with TR approach Never had to be dialed into fitness the way I see some claiming on the forum. Never had tight knowledge back then, and again with a coach. The only time I was regularly testing for ftp, to have tight knowledge of fitness and zone setting, was when using TR.
One certainly can train extremely effectively without a power meter. It was done for longer than it has with power meters. But if you are going to go out and pace a classic 2x20 effort evenly, then most are going to benefit from knowing their fitness quite well. You can get that from field testing or from doing the workouts a lot. Whether or not you knew a power number on your fitness, my point is I suspect you were (are) pretty dialed into pacing the efforts at a constant time duration. That’s not common.
Work is power x duration at that power. Improved fitness allows one to increase either one. Most workout plans are based on a set interval duration, with increasing output at that duration based on increasing intensity. A lot of TR workouts are based on a fix power target at increasing duration as fitness improves. At least with using PL. The latter allows for a wide variation on FTP input.
I like this concept. Seems the masses want FTP to grow and keep their current profession level
Hmm, haven’t seen that. And I own a handful of plans from three well known coaching companies 
Don’t know what to say. I’m clearly confused by what you were getting at.
What I see with things out of say Allen and Coggan; Skiba; Friel to name a few are do these interval durations in different zones. Reassess FTP/CP every 4-6 weeks. And one simply can’t do a Nx20 or an 10-15 min O/U workout unless paced properly. TR set plans up similarly, but ran into the problem with people using bad FTP estimates, and also having over-aggressive progression rates in plans. So here we are with AT - dial back the progression rates, and also the need for a good FTP estimate.
And I must be confusing something from previous conversations. I’ve recall debates with you regarding the importance of knowing FTP - me arguing it isn’t that important, my interpretation from you that it was important. Maybe I’m mixing you up with someone else.