Oops, I didn’t realize the geo numbers I was looking at for the old Shiv TT only went up to large when I made that statement. There used to be an XL, and that’s what I have… It looks like the stack was the same, but the reach was 20mm longer
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I just snagged the data for the old model from the current Spesh site as of this morning. They may have pulled that data at some point because they ran out of stock/quit making the XL.
Yeah I think so. I did the same thing you did last night without noticing there was no XL. I’d just assumed the rightmost column was the XL, not L.
In any case, @Nate_Pearson should just buy my old XL Shiv TT so I can buy the new one 
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I’ve got the XL P5. It looks like that might be my TT bike for life.
I really love the look of this bike and the new argon TT disc brake bike but I cannot justify the outlay for this beasty when it may only give me a few seconds difference on a short course if at all. I am currently running a P5 Rim brake with all the goodies. I would for someone to test this side by side with the P5 to see what I would be getting for my investment. I guess we are looking at around $20-23K AUD to buy this based on the price in the article @mcneese.chad provided.
When we look at world tour TT specialists we’ll probably see a Merida win it with Rohan Dennis or a Dumolin on the Cervelo (when healthy).
I don’t think this new bike will propel specialized factory teams to victory.
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I don’t think this bike is UCI legal. Why do you want it? Hopping back into triathlon 
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By lowering the seat stays you build in some additional compliance. The junction of the seat stays and seat post is a pivot. When you hit a bump, the seat post flexes back and down. The seat tube will want to move/rotate foward while the rest of the frame has to flex in order to compensate. By moving the seat stays down, the seat stays can help push the bottom section of the seat tube forward, thus enhancing the flex of the frame and compliance. I think I said that right, whether I said it clearly is another story 
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Wasn’t Bob Jungels riding it recently?
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You may be confused. This new bike absolutely is UCI legal. Its already been used in a number of UCI races.
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I suspect that you are confusing this with the Shiv Tri Disc that was released in October last year. The bikes share some similar design elements, but are actually quite different.
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You’re correct. I am mistaking it for that tri version.
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Wouldn’t any advantages of disc brakes (whatever they could be on a TT bike) be washed out by the aero penalty?
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Any chance seat stays like those would make it to the Venge?
Somebody is gonna need to fill in the details here, but I’m pretty sure there are different UCI rules for road bikes vs TT bikes. I read somewhere that the level of seatstay drop on the venge is the max allowed by the UCI.
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$14,000 what do people who buy these bikes do for a job, I earn a wage well above the national average in Britain, there is no chance I will ever get a bike like this without a lottery win.
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Hopefully I don’t come off as sounding elitist here, but people seem to be okay buying 80k-120k BMWs or Teslas. If they were super hard core in biking, 14k wouldn’t be too far out of their way.
Or even, if you buy a 30k Camry instead of a 45k Audi. There’s a new Shiv TT!
At that price range I can think on plenty of competition on the tri bike realm but UCI legal TT? Who are they competing against?
Cervelo P5 disc. The argon 18 disc tt bike. Expect a disc speedconcept this year. Canyon will also eventually follow. UCI legal TT bikes are a niche but there is definitely a market for them.
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Haha you can get a loan for a car though. I don’t know how the bank would feel about me trying to make monthly payments on a bike
Trek offers financing via their card, not sure about Spesh. Different that a typical loan, but payments are possible.
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