๐ŸŽ‰๐ŸŽ‰๐ŸŽ‰ New Early Access Feature: Import and Analyze Runs in TrainerRoad! ๐ŸŽ‰๐ŸŽ‰๐ŸŽ‰

Running functionality is now available in the apps for those that are opted into Early Access!

All your feedback and help dialling in things on Web was super helpful and much appreciated. If you notice anything off with the recently completed backfill or within the apps please let us know.

*This will require the most recent version to use, the update should be available

12 Likes

Iโ€™m seeing some completed runs appear on the wrong days:

That Zwift run that shows up as completed today (January 16th) was done yesterday; the one on Friday (January 13th) was done the day before. The one on Wednesday is correct (that one was done earlier in the day than the other two, so it looks like it could be a timezone bug.)

I see this on Mac and iOS; they show up on the correct days on web.

1 Like

TSS estimation for runs is still web only, is it?

Currently yes, that is close to being available in the mobile and desktop apps as well though

2 Likes

I see this too, although not for all runs. Specifically I see an evening run showing on the next day right now, maybe itโ€™s using UTC vs UTC-6 somehow?

If I open the run (from the app) it says the proper date/time it was completed though.

Iโ€™m on iOS.

2 Likes

We already have a fix in for this one that will be released in our next app update!

1 Like

Super excited but didnโ€™t see it, instead of complaining I decided to wait andโ€ฆwooโ€ฆ.

As a user of Training Peaks, I was initially puzzled by the TSS scores in TR based on RPE. The equivalent in TP on my completed runs was quite a bit higher. With some digging, I have found a few references to why this may be.

TP rTSS is calculated using a 45min threshold Normalized Graded Pace as 100 rTSS, which I distinctly remember recently reading on a TP page, but now canโ€™t find.

TP now states:
TSS explained

rTSS is a metric that can only be used in running workouts, as the algorithm only accounts for the unique physical demands of running.

Which is more oblique than the statement I remember reading.

I also found reference in a SlowTwitch thread:
Slowtwitch

I went to a seminar run by Hunter Allen last year and he said that rTSS gives a score of 100 for a 45 min threshold effort (his explanation was that to account for the additional stress on the body from running 45 mins of threshold effort was equivalent to 60mins on the bike)

I would be interested to hear whether TR has considered this in its consideration of the calculation and whether they are considering aligning the calculation with Normalised Graded Pace in the future?

1 Like

Confirmed fixed on my end, thanks!

1 Like

only just noticed this was active ! ive been doing it manually for agesโ€ฆdoh my runs all seem to be in there now but the names arent as they are on strava. all just evening run, afternoon run etc
are the names not getting pulled like for the bike stuff?

Weโ€™re actively working on this, runs should be using the name from Strava in the near future

2 Likes

Hi @dominikrymsza, I have an enhancement request. I have a triathlon plan on my calendar. In the top right, I get completed TSS / total TSS planned for the week. Historically, these take into account the planned runs, and before this feature, Iโ€™d make the run as compete and that estimated tss would be added to the completed tss. Now, when the run comes in and auto associates with the planned run, the planned runs tss is removed from the total tss for the week. This makes it look like I have done more tss than planned. For this week, Iโ€™d like it to show 98/ 290+33. Before i did the run, it was 65/323

2 Likes

We recently changed how we store TSS for Runs and had a few regressions. Here and in a few other places we are updating to make sure Run TSS is included in totals

2 Likes

Glad it wasnโ€™t just me thinking it seemed odd I lost planned TSS (and planned hours) today.

Likewise, another quirky bug is that if you try and move a swim workout from one day to another (e.g. Thurs to Fri), from the mobile app (iOS), itโ€™ll fail.

I was trying to simply edit the date on the scheduled swim, but it wouldnโ€™t let me because it had populated a 0 TSS value (literally zero), and then errored saying you canโ€™t have a zero TSS workout.

2 Likes

Appreciate the heads up on that bug โ€“ we have a fix for that issue in testing now!

How far are we off a running UI in IOS? really want to get rid of my Zwift subscription for ease of telling me what to do and when using the Runn device on the treadmill.

Syncing and analyzing runs is out of Early Access! More updates here.