Note down the day you did the workout and the workout name. Find the workout in “Browse workouts”, select it, then scroll down to the power record and create a custom filter for the day you did the workout.
You can see in the power records function above that I exceeded the “perfect” workout (in NP) for the entire workout by 2~3w which is about 1%. TR then gave me a PL score of 5.3 which is greater than the 5.0 in the title.
Try this analysis for one of your workouts and see how close you really got and post the screenshot.
Remember the Ai is looking at what you did. This helps let you see how close you got to the perfect workout match, and may help you understand why you didn’t achieve a full “score” if you didn’t get the PL bump you thought you “earned”.
My suspicion is that some workouts WL levels are off slightly, and the AI is scoring what you did and assigning a you a new athlete level that does not always match.
@Caro.Gomez-Villafane@eddie it would be super super handy if there was a pre-defined filter in the list such as “the day you did the shown workout the last time” so that we could do that comparison as shown in the post for each workout with just one click. Please do this
Ok this is really cool. Where I can see this being even more useful, is when we can finally start riding outside again in a month or so (at least in my area) it will be interesting to compare the results from workouts done outdoors to what was expected.
It would definitely be useful if there was a button or some sort of filter option to bring this up directly from the workout details!
The button option sounds like a great tool, in the review of the workout you’ve completed. As in specifically the one on your calendar.
The button doesn’t necessarily work in the way the op is suggesting that you do it which is finding it in the workout library because that would then possibly be impacted by changes in ftp and how that never completed workout may be completed on the day you happen to check.
Not sure. So just that we are on the same page: I browse a workout in the library and in the power records below the workout I see the curve of the workout
vs last 6 weeks (as now) or
vs the power curve of my last performance of that exact workout (your suggestion as new default)
I think the main case of the power record chart for a workout is still that you want to see how the workout challenges you vs your recent training…so the 6 weeks default as is shown now is perfect!
Also there will be times when you haven’t done the workout before.
So I think there is no need for a new default but I just think a simple one click way to compare and see the workout vs last performance of that workout would be nice (so we don’t have to manually find the date of that and set that into the filter).
@eddie I assume instead you mean this which would be very helpful:
Another approach to this suggested feature could be to not pick the workout from the library but instead go to the already performed workout and then in the power curve you would blend in the curve of the underlying workout so you would see target/actual comparison. Here it would make sense to have this as default (additional to last 6 week curve) and I’d like that very much!!
For example this would help to see if a non-erg workout is close to the original. Or if the power curve of the ERG workout is 2-3 watt below the target curve (e.g. because ERG is to slow for short intervals etc) and therefore the workout level gets 0.2 reduction…
However the forms are full of people querying why their workout didn’t score the indicated workout levels and / or querying why their FTP prediction went down following a workout.
If you did your workout outside, inside but using resistance mode, did it in Zwift (some ppl complain about zwift erg vs TR Erg) etc, then your power trace is unlikely to be perfect.
This allows you to see more accurately how your workout went relative to the prescription. Perhaps you undershot the power required by 5% and this lowered your score / FTP prediction and this may help you understand that.
Rockness,
yes but I almost never complete the workout at exactly 100% setting for the duration of the workout. Often will increase % when getting out of the saddle, when AI gives a weak workout before a recovery weak or maybe to add just a minute of tempo in an otherwise boring 2hr zone2 ride. Or if you add an extra 30sec interval at the end of a block or a float recovery at sweetspot after a vo2max interval instead of 10min easy spin CD. But I really see how just a small skew of just one interval can really affect these NP graphs when doing shorter intervals (or really any interval workout) add a couple surges to just one Sweetspot 10min interval repeat… makes it seem like you really did more than prescribed (when it was just one of the 5 intervals!).
ERG mode should ensure its close (unless you have to bail an interval early) but it wont be perfect - unless you have “ERG mode smoothing” turned on…. which you shouldn’t because its the devils work.
Still hope that in the power curve of a performed workout you blend in the curve of the underlying workout so you can see target/actual comparison. Could you discuss that idea with the team already?
After a closer look, I’m not sure this is actually a bug. In your scenario, are there any other activities in the date range you selected to compare to that Stickney workout?
If not, that’s why you’re seeing “NO DATA.”
You can already see the power curve from Stickney. What are you trying to compare it to here?
