Exactly right thats a greal rule
So if I am right, I can mix 60g of table sugar with 30g of maltodextrin to achieve 60:30g of sucrose: fructose = 90g in preferred solution?
The drink is likely what you want (90g total at 2:1 Glucose to Fructose ratio), but details not quite right:
Sucrose is 50% glucose (dextrose) and 50% fructose. Maltodextrin is, for this conversation, 100% glucose.
60g of sucrose + 30g of malrodextrin would be 90g total. The components of that 90 would be 60g glucose plus 30g fructose.
Which is the 2:1 glucose : fructose you were trying to achieve.
If you put that 90g of sugar into solution with plain water, and bring the total volume to 1,000 mL (1 liter) you would have an approximate 9% solution. Which should be gut tolerable for most folks.
Hope that helps - enjoy the ride.
Great. Thanks.Easy to remember. I will scoop in a flavored BCAA powder and some salt for additional taste and nutrients
I have an empty jar that contained 2# of pea protein and I put 1000g sugar, 100g gatorade, and 4 tablespoons of sodium citrate inside. I used a largish spoon to mix it and then put the lid on and shook it. It seems to be well mixed. Well…seems to be, I’m not sure how to quantify the “mix-age”.
Gotta say, it’s working pretty well at 50-100g/hr although 2 hrs is about the longest ride I’ve used it so as the hours pile on results could possibly vary. I’d really like to avoid a large osmotic gradient into my gut and the resultant blowout 3 1/2 hours into some event 
Joe
Seems promising. Let me know if when you get to the bottom of the container it still looks like it was a similar blend or if any one component settled out.
When I made my own electrolyte mix (overly complicated Homemade electrolyte mix, 1-10 cents/serving) I put it all in a food processor with the blade attachment and it seemed to mix it quite nicely, and also broke up the large epsom salt crystals.
You’ll have a much larger volume to deal with using sugar (I’m almost through the batch I made 18 months ago), but I think this would mix it pretty well. I think also by breaking down the various crystals in the mix they should be more similar in size so that there will not be settling due to size differences.
Other than the gatorade mix being overly sweet, it is working well for me. So far I have tried the orange and blue flavors, and don’t really like the blue. Waiting for fruit punch to come into stock at the local wal-mart.
I tried 45g of sugar in the bottle for my 30 minute workout. Gotta say,it wasn’t too bad and “all natural” fwiw.
Joe
Does anybody knows if this is correct?
The liquid Gatorade contains sucrose and HFCS - both roughly 50% fructose and 50% glucose (the two are bound together in sucrose and in free forms in HFCS). The powdered version contains sucrose and dextrose (aka glucose) with no free fructose
I ask this because all using Gatorade powder are assuming it contains Fructose.
Ok now I understand, so 40 grams of gatorade are 20 grams glucose and 20 grams of fructose.
I’ve taken to mixing several bottles at once and keeping them in the fridge for the next few days’ rides. Anyone know how long a freshly mixed bottle of malto/fructose will last in the fridge before developing some sort of sentience and desire to murder?
It’s not like I’m keeping them in there for weeks, but it would be nice to get an idea of the upper limit just for reference.
Roughly 1-2 months in my experience 
Gelatinous murderous goop poured out of a really old one, into my mouth and I almost vomited. Still tried drinking it for the rest of the ride because I’m not about to go without carbs, but couldn’t so my wife split her bottle with me.
Unlikely. They market that 2:1 is optimal. In the powdered mixes they have dextrose and sucrose listed.
Or in the Gatorade Endurance powedered mixes they have maltodextrin and sucrose listed, I beliieve.
I suspect most their powders are closer to 2:1 glucose:fructose.
Uhhh…this isn’t the Halloween thread.
Glad to know my one week bottles are safe from attack of the blob sentience
If I am going for 50/50 glucose/fructose, is there any difference in sweetness if I go 100% sucrose vs. 50% maltodextrin + 50% fructose?
Is there a difference in “mouth feel”…when I put 150g into a bottle it’s sorta thick. Not “gel-like” thick but…pretty thick.
Joe
Tangent…
When I was a lot younger, and didn’t fuel on the bike, I had a small 500mL bottle filled with Coca Cola that lived in the seat tube bottle cage of my bike for several months as an “emergency bottle”. When I did finally drink it the furry mess inside was unbelievable. One of the nastiest things I’d put in my mouth
Almost indistinguishable according to the numbers, but might depend on chain length of your malto. Might not. Interested to hear your perception. I have not tried.
Haven’t looked into the numbers on this or tried it. Maybe I will soon. Good question. Let me know your findings.
I’m impressed a coke went bad.
Does anyone on here know what types of sugar are in beet vs cane sugar? Way near the beginning of the thread someone mentioned that table sugar has 1:1 glucose and fructose, but doesn’t that depend on the source?
I mention this 50/50 because In the Gatorade formulas online, they mention this:
But I still do not understand exactly if powder Gatorade contains any amount of fructose