Legacy Pricing of TR

You can’t look at it this way….the same as people saying “it is only a cup of Starbucks” measurement.

It is the sticker shock of the number….not how it breaks down on a daily basis.

Yes, you won’t be emailed.

I’m in @Nate_Pearson. Sounds like an incredibly reasonable/generous proposition!

I mean I’m already giving you $45 a year by sticking with pay monthly at $12/month rather than converting to annual (which I can do at $99 according to my account). Can I get a refund on the difference :stuck_out_tongue:

I have been paying the same amount for well over 5 years now and would have no issues paying more - the “real” cost of TR has gone down significantly in that time as inflation has been at least 20% here since then. I.e., $12/month now is worth a lot less than $12/month in I think October 2016 when I joined. I bet you pay a lot more for your developers than you did then so my $12/month pays for a lot less than it used to.

I’m assuming I’d now be paying $17/month in your scenario. TR is worth at least that to me :man_shrugging: . If it means you can implement some of the other features you’ve been mentioning recently more quickly then I’m all for it.

Fundamentally: it must be possible to balance having a generous loyalty deal for long term subscribers against the needs of the business.

Sounds reasonable to me.

I would want to know if I opt out what am I losing? Would I lose access to new features? Would this only be monthly or would you have a annual fee as well?

You wouldn’t lose anything. And we’d do it for yearly and monthly.

Yes I agree. Sounds like a plan. I’m at 99$/year and certainly perceive the increase in value because of all the new features. Well done TR!

Yes I agree. I am annual legacy $129. Now that I have estimated ftp I am happy to pay the extra $60. Well worth it. If estimated ftp had come out first, then price increase, I think most legacy users would have accepted paying extra for the new features.

You’re a good dude @Nate_Pearson, thanks for chiming in on this topic. Now can you please make your way over to that other 800 lbs gorilla thread?

I’d be in, too. I appreciate your business model and values. It would be a sad day, when you’re forces to change it fundamentally. So doing it the way you proposed is very well aligned with your modus operandi.

keep it going!
one of those ancient TR users

I’d be cautious bumping up pricing and shocking users who aren’t paying attention and who don’t read emails. But other than that it works.

Personally, I’m not using AT or the plans so I’d likely not ante up the extra over legacy. But if I did start using AT and the plans in future would reconsider.

$0.02 but you asked :slight_smile:

What run import email?

Nate:
You have a great business. Charge people what it is worth. The wrong people will leave, but they were halfway out the door anyhow.
I’d be shocked if any price increase resulted in a net revenue decrease due to people leaving.

About a coffee a month.

And less than a pint of a Beer with Chad per month! :grin:

You’re mensches at TR. I think it’s a great concept. You have a lot of good will among your users, and I imagine a lot of folks, even if it’s a significant minority, would opt in. In all honesty, I would probably opt out at this point, but only because my financial situation is unstable at the moment. I like to think I would opt back in if my wife returns to work and/or the kids go to public school, but that could be wishful thinking. I figure the least I can do is be honest about it. Either way, I know from being on this forum (you spent what on a wheel set??) that many users would not bat a lash. I would also personally NOT have complained if you “broke” your promise and raised prices on us $99ers, it would sting, but I’d cough up the extra in that scenario. So, I’m the user you’re betting against, but I think many would pay, and there would be blowback from others with a straight up price raise.

I assume you have considered this, but what about also giving the option for the Rockefellers among us to pay more (they choose the additional amount) if they choose?

That sounds fair. FWIW I’d opt to pay more, no question.

Morally, this last option makes the most sense to me: it rewards long-term subscribers and adheres to the spirit of your promise while facing the reality of things like, well, inflation.

I would just make clear rules who counts as a long-term customers so new customers can also get into the 20 % off bracket. Three years of continuous subscription plus everyone who is locked in at a lower price now? That’d make it also very easy for you to plan ahead financially.

I think the 20% loyalty discount makes sense. I like TR so I think it’s worth it.

My previously stated thoughts still stand.

I got on Board late in 2018, which is not really long, but long enough to be counted as “loyal”. AFAIK if I started with the yearly plan right then, I would profit from the grandfathered prices.

I think the divide between grandfathered prices at <100 USD and full paying members is too big and a loyalty discount for everyone after 1 or 2 years at the same price is more fair.

If I started cycling earlier, I would for sure be on TR since years and profit from lower annual prices…