Theyre Tempo over unders
Today I had alternative over unders in the form of 3 x 20s sprint followed by 6 min tempo, a rest and then repeat.
Was surprised that I could not recover fully for the next sprint after each tempo block.
I think a number of the workouts are tougher than they look.
I do like the workouts so far. They feel like “bike riding” to me. I also think join is getting the load pretty right, I do feel like I’m doing something, but fresh enough to do it again the next day.
Same here.
Ditto. Some of the workouts I’ve done have actually reminded me of local routes, which will likely be useful when outdoor riding returns as an option for me.
I had three days in a row with intensity prescribed as well, that’s four out of five riding days if you include the 20min test they want me to do on Monday too.
I have been given a “Level” that their system says is accurate.
The “Red Light, Green Light” thing seems interesting. It said I was doing too much last week. I’ll watch it this week before my trial is up.
Changed around the availability as I will be watching kids athletics day.
Their “Strength” I expected to be Tempo or SS, but is often Threshold.
Dialled in extra availability, ever the optimist.
One thing I hate is that if you see a workout you like/the plan for the week looks good, you can’t send it to TP as scheduled. It all bumbles over there on the current day. TR only picks it up on that day.
I really don’t like TP and would way rather just TR. Intervals.ICU is so much better except doesn’t have the ability/support as the hub of all things cycling. JOIN looks super promising, I’m really hoping this is what Nate has in mind for TR’s updates.
35.9 OUCH
I won’t even mention what my lowly number is 
How do you all handle different power “profiles” from different setups?
My outside bike has a power meter that reads higher than my kickr snap setup (different bike, no pm) which gives me an unrealistic FTP and throws off the evaluations of the outdoor rides.
Do I just set my FTP per workout for indoor and deal with the bad feedback from my outside rides?
35.9 is a nice score. In post #30 above they tried to find the underlying formula for the score. It seems to be driven by CTL and W/kg… This would put you e.g at about 4 W/kg with a CTL of 85?
I don’t think it means you are over reaching and should slow down.
In the podcast Laurens mentioned that he is also always ahead in Join. Jim was not to worried about that, it just meant he was progressing faster than what their model predicted.
I did a quick calc and it seems like the blue progress % is where your level is along the projected path under “your plan”.
While the green bar is just the progress of time until the current goal.
Edit: Oh I see they do have an indicator showing if you are going too slow/fast or OK. It seems like Join will adjust the schedule accordingly.
Strength refers to strength training on the bike and is linked to low cadence drills at various intensities. You can find this in the workout notes.
In the free version of TP you can then move the workouts in the calendar a day or 2 ahead. You can also send them to Garmin connect and then schedule it in yourself at any date, dunno if that route can get it into TR then? I just do the workouts on my hometrainer in the same way I would do them outside, using the Garmin to record and show the intervals and with the bike in free ride mode. It is also possible to let the Garmin control the trainer and use ERG mode.
If you ride a lot both inside and outside it would mess up the score/ training advice completely as it would produce very high CTL for outside rides, think you are over training and then give lighter workouts as a result.
Have you measured what the difference is? If you can record a ride inside from both the Snap and the PM, you can then compare them using an online tool in Zwiftpower.com.
I have compared my hometrainer power with the PM on the outside bike and was happy about it:
If you know the difference in power you could use an online tool to change the power data a fixed % up or down before uploading to Strava.
There is a question about that on their forum. No replies yet to it as I type. The suggestion was to manipulate the FTP for the individual ride with the differing power meter. No response though from the team there
My trainer shows consistently 7% down on my pedals. It wold be so much better if there was a feature to scale the power from the trainer on TR. I would have thought it would have been a simple thing to do. Or do 90% of people on TR have trainers that match their PM’s like yours?
Yes, had just posted that question on the Join Forum as I was typing my response above and was wondering if the FTP that you can set when exporting a workout, only changes the ranges in the workout file or if it also changes how Join interprets the ride power data.
I hadn’t noticed it was you. 
My assioma pedals allow the user to scale up or down the power values in the software. But I can run them at 100%, matching the power values of the TrueBike.
On TR traditionally people use mostly indoor trainers to do FTP testing an follow the workouts. Since TR does not interpret outdoor workouts (maybe it does now, but unstructured outside rides did not count and structured workouts were always assumed to be completed), it is not a biggy to adjust accordingly outdoor power ranges yourself.
Yes I could alter my pedals but I don’t want to screw up comparisons with my past data. Also I’d be changing something to make it less accurate. My kJ’s for the rides would be out as would my fuelling guide I use outside with the Xert IQ App. Xert does have the option on their old IoS App but lost the ability on an update a while back. Android has never had it. More importantly though my FTP would go down!
I forgot that the highest of the 2 is of coarse the most accurate one
Indeed TR app could easily include functionality to scale power to help calibrate it to other trainer.
Or even better, allow for a mapping curve, as it is very often not the same factor across the entire range.
Doesn’t PowerMatch solve this? https://support.trainerroad.com/hc/en-us/articles/204631294-PowerMatch-Using-Power-Meters-with-Smart-Trainers
Only if you can use your pm on the trainer