Yeah…I thought you were talking about all 60-75 minute rides, rather than 2.5+ hour rides. If I’,m riding my bike more than an hour outside, I’m eating a gel at least every 30 minutes, and more if the effort calls for it. And, the first thing I do when my legs start feeling sluggish is eat carbs, unless I have just eaten carbs.
Wow thanks, seems like been doing it wrong all these while. Instead of changing a scheduled workout to ride with a group, my way of replacing was to manually add a group ride card and deleting the schedule workout for that day.
Will your way add credit to progression level? With my incorrect way, I do see AI make adaptations to subsequent days after I update the RPE post group ride(but it doesn’t change the progression at all).
Will start making changes now and monitor the progress.
Thanks, will try to fuel up more during group rides. Yes, fatigue normally kicks in around 60-70% distance mark.
appreciate the insights. Yes, there will be chill break middle of ride. Honestly, power was only moderate to light as I am sitting inside the group(they have designated pullers).
despite that, you are right. I do see near 1.7-2k calories burned. Will add more fueling during rides, thanks.
weekend rides are more than 2 hours, but with stops in between. I add tailwind endurance fuel to my 2 bottles, gel at 1 hour mark.
could be fatigue with group ride added. Skip the workout closest to the group ride I’d say.
I sometimes skip my saturday intensity workout if I already have a table tennis match either on friday night or on saturday itself because I know I can’t handle both.
Yes, kept that in mind. On my next plan, will trial with changing a workout to group ride. If i still cant handle that, either skip a workout or group ride.
Current plan ending 23 Nov, moving back to master base phase. Read somewhere for hrs/week, we need to factor in the group rides outside?
Tracking back data, was doing 200-250 TSS / 5-7 hrs / 4 sessions max per week(incl group rides). Should i pick LV3 & add a group ride card or MV1 changing 2/5 workouts to group side?
Hope I am doing it right this round.
Instead of picking one of the predefined plan formats (LV, MV, HV), use Custom Plan Builder to construct a plan specified just how you want it.
And assuming you’re northern hemisphere(?), give yourself a lengthy time window of multiple months for the plan so you can progress things very steadily from base→build, rather than jumping straight into the more intense and perhaps more fatiguing workouts until the groundwork has been well laid.
I would do what @AldridgePrior is suggesting 
Let TrainerRoad build you a custom plan instead of manually adding phases. When building a custom plan it will take you through various easy steps. Once you get to the Schedule step, you can drag and drop the workouts to the days of the week you’d like to train, as well as make them Group Rides.
Let me know if you go this route and I can review your plan once it’s applied to your Calendar.
Here are instructions on how to create a custom plan: Plan Builder Overview
Note: when you change a planned TR Workout for a Group Ride you will not be getting Progression Level credit as you did not complete a structured TR Workout. Instead you completed an unstructured group ride, but the system will factor in the workout data to adjust future workouts.
Done with customs plan, stretch it to 4 months. factor in my weekend group rides but adjusted some of the workout time so it won’t trigger overtraining message for a start.