Looks good. God I hope they decide to do an MTB pedal. That would be an auto buy for me
They are supposedly doing two pedal based meters now, a Keo based road pedal and a SPD compatible mountain pedal more that the pedal independent module is a no-go
Yeah, but I thought that it was still up in the air as to which one they would do (spd vs keo). They sent a survey but I havenāt heard much in the way of results
I understand that are doing both and the survey that everyone is so worked up about is just to gauge the mix of road to mtb in the first production run.
Ah ok. That clarifies things.
A lot of people were thinking the āsurveyā was their choice for their KS/IGG perk when it was intended to be a straw poll. Given the delays and the change in design unrealistic expectations of a crowdfunded project, the are are a lot of angry āinternet outrageā types. In some cases it is justified, but in the end it is a crowdfunded project and it could have simply folded. At least it looks like something usable will come out of it.
Well it makes sense. It does feel like a bait and switch. But they made it really clear through out that this was a crowdfunding campaign and there are risks associated with that. If anything, I think IQ should have been much more communicative in general. I think people would have responded well if they tried a more social media approach to development. Wintergattan and the Marble Machine construction approach comes to mind.
As someone who just waited to see, really glad I didnāt go in head first though.
Thatās fair, their communication had been less than stellar for sure but I think they really were trying to make it work but they ran into essentially an unsolvable issue so they chose to develop āsomethingā usable rather than shutting it down. Iām ok with the solution but I get how some arenāt but at the same time thatās the risk of crowdfunding. They could have kept chasing the original design, pissed away all the money, and produce nothing as per crowdfunding and that would have all within the realm of possibility of KS/IGG
I guess Iām an outlier in that having a PM isnāt that high a priority so all the shenanigans along the way doesnāt impact me all that much. I sold my SRM for a bottle of scotch lol. I will be satisfied if I get a working device and am not bent out of shape with Keo Vs SPD-SL (they are all pedals to me) so I am willing to cut them more slack than many others. I am also willing to accept that a crowdfunded project could fail and end up with nothing.
After thirty years in high tech, I wonāt debate that there many things they could have done better but at the same time the are a number of R&D things that occurred that were of no surprise to me at all but others donāt understand.
I hope that was a nice bottle of scotch. ![]()
Decent but not extravagant, it was an original SRM crank and PC-V. Interesting data but not up to todayās integration
Did anyone get their email on which pedals to choose? Their media guy Kenneth Perry said that they are on schedule to deliver in August.
I followed this with some distance since its inception. Iām sure many those who backed it are apathetic, angry, or have just plain forgotten about it by this point, but props to them for not just folding after the first major hurdle. Once they ship and theyāve got some in-the-field testing, where QC will come into play, Iād definitely order some for their price.
I would be shocked if they deliver anything this year. Even more surprised if they deliver anything in August. To deliver this month means that they already have a bunch or people testing and riding prototypes. And Iād be surprised if that is the case.
Iāve honestly no idea why they keep on setting themselves these unattainable deadlines and dooming themselves to failure. Iād have had so much more confidence in the product if when they announced they were switching to pedals they set the delivery date to a year after the switch.
Iāve been very defensive of them so far, largely because I recognise what youāre doing when you back a Kickstarter (i.e. not buying a product, but funding a project), but Iām starting to worry a bit about their blind optimism.
They havenāt even sent the forms out to choose your pedals yet, how can they be on track to ship in the next 21 days?
Overpromising and underdelivering seem to be part of the crowd-funding DNA. Itās gotten as bad as used car salesmen
I also believe that in line with the unrealistic KS/IGG thinking, everyone thinks that they are going to be shipping everything all at once when it will be in waves starting with the first KS backers. Iād guess the first shipment will be less than 100 units. Itāll take a couple of months once they actually start shipping to get through KS backers first, then IGG backers, and then web orders.
Thereās a new vocabulary thatās been invented by crowd-funded companies - as in:
āWeāre excited to have received our first prototypes!!!ā = We got them, and the first 5 we powered burned into small balls of plastic.
āAfter a few minor changes, we will be getting our first production batch!ā = Weāre scrapping this lot before it takes the building down.
āWe now have our first production batch, and the tests are very encouraging!ā = They didnāt catch fire (yet). Thatās a good thing, we ran out of fire extinguishers on the previous lot.
āWe are about to ship our first unitā¦ā = We have one unit assembled that sort of works, with a lot of soldered wires, tie wraps and duct tape blended in.
Speak of the devil, theyāve gone an released another update:
Hi everyone,
Weād like to send you all a quick update right before the weekend. SMD Sensors is preparing the axles and our other production partners are currently working on the first batch of mass-produced components. Our own assembly line is being prepared in The Netherlands, so that weāll be ready to go once all the parts get in. Tests are consistently looking good!
Weāve been integrating our backer and pre-order customer databases in preparation for delivery. Our next update will contain more details on that, as weāll be reaching out to all of you individually to obtain your accurate shipping address and choice of power meter.
Have a nice weekend!
Team iQsquare
Doesnāt score too high on the above bingo board, but also isnāt very committal. None of that sounds like a company on the verge of shipping to me though.
Including that one critical part with a 26-week lead-time, which we ordered yesterday.