🎉🎉🎉 Introducing Plan Builder! 🎉🎉🎉

Very cool feature!

One question/suggestion: Is it possible to recalculate the plan after sickness/injury? Would be really cool! Also if one could already plug in known “off-weeks” beforehand, would be great (and for example classify them as ‘recovery’ or ‘high stress’).

One note: When the builder doesn’t schedule the full block, sometimes there is no ramp test included. Not a big deal as one can just exchange the workout, but people new to Trainerroad might not be aware.

And one suspected bug: I get an error (same as @janneseppala posted above) whenever i try to change the volume of single blocks manually.

Cheers

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I changed these to Gran Fondo, as I won’t be racing even if they’re timed (Dirty Reiver and Lakelander). Deleted the plans and re scheduled and came back with Sustained Power into Century. I probably should’ve tried changing them to see what happened!

It’s excellent. But the Vacation/ Week Off/ Sick House option probably fairly urgent need?

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I could imagine things becoming complicated and completely messed up if I attempted this. I’m 54 and need those extra recovery weeks.

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Advance your goal event in time by how many weeks you’ve already completed. I just look at the resulting plan, so mentally skip the parts you’ve already done. If, for example, you’ve just finished SSB1, set your goal event 6 weeks later than it really is.

Just plugged everything in with a couple of races, and it looks great. One comment I do have is that if races are grandfondo’s, which mine are, then I don’t normally bother with a specialty phase, just switching between ssB2 and one of the build phases (or half of a build phase) through out the season, so an option to not do a specialty block could be a thing.

It wasn’t - it is now and I’ve got the next button. Onwards to see what happens after that! :smiley:

Thanks for the tip!

@Nate_Pearson To extend this question a bit further…any plans to incorporate some form of polarized plans in the (distant) future? Or will TR stay mainly SweetSpot driven?

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Looks like a great option. I think the triathlon planning needs some help. When I did a test setup, it was giving me the option of 3 rides and 3 runs per week. But when i hit plan, it just gave me 2 rides and 2 runs per week. I train about 7-10 hours per week and it suggested the MV planset. I would rather do LV and add workouts than skip something.

Great start. I will keep playing with this.

@bnied Kind of bug:

If planning 2 A races, first triathlon then road race, then in the Schedule tab the week distribution mixes the triathlon plan days and the road race plan days into one week which is super confusing. Ideally you should have triathlon and road race disciplines separated as 2 graphics for individually setting week distribution.

Now you can use “Customize training days for each block” as workaround. (BTW: when I did this for the above scenario, the customized days were not considered but the plan was unfolded with standard default day distribution into the calendar. Seems like a little bug there. In the last overview it’s ok, but after inserting it’s wrong in the calendar…just could reproduce the bug.)

Excellent feature!

Have added an A 70.3 event in April and wanted the plan to start this Saturday. Kicks off with a run and a swim for Friday and then the ramp test on Saturday… That was not how I intended it, but maybe I misunderstood. Bug? :slight_smile:

Can you not input them as separate training blocks (i.e. start from scratch for each big event)?

Not sure the answer is yes BTW, just something I’m considering doing myself as my events are so far apart.

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I like this a lot but hit two problems

  1. my Time trialling races progress from 25s in April, through 50 in May, then 100s in June and July to a 12hr on 2nd August. This is what i did last year. However, I ended up with a series of 40kTT mid volumes in the latter stages, which is not enough (I tend to train around 600-700TSS through this period.) So my first concern is that the intensity of longer Time Trials is not reflected in the programme

  2. When I changed the level of effort for the 40kTT programme running into July and August from mid volume to high volume, I got a server error.

3rd question: Around this time as the warmer weather comes I tend to ride long paced TT sessions at under race effort, often 3-4 hours each (just to get comfortable with the bike, feeding and pacing). However the 40kTT has only 2-3 hr rides in it. I guess I would need to up these as a later consideration once I had got the essence of the programme built. Is that fair?

Can I save the scheduled plan without scheduling it (committing it to the calendar) , so I can look at it again later and give it the thoughtful consideraton it deserves?

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This isn’t a new bug, but something I’d like to be able to do that the calendar can’t do now is delete training days - for instance, I am ‘doing’ SSB mid, but I am actually doing the high volume workouts on Tue/Thur/Sat. If I added High Volume to the calendar I’d have to delete some extra days every week manually, so I am manually changing the workouts on a per workout basis. Some way of deleting, say, the Wed and Fri workouts from the plan when initially planning would be ideal.*

*yes, I know it’d mess up the planned TSS, but it’d be consistently deleting a chunk of each week so wouldn’t effect the progression. Even better would be if I could choose to insert the Mid Vol Wed workout, as that’s what I’m actually doing.

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An actual bug found - when the plans are in the calendar, you can click on the first day of Specialty and change the focus, for instance I want to change rolling road race to 40k TT, I’m getting an error when trying to do this though.

Anyone having problem with the “next” bottom after planning your events? It just not highlighted for me to select, tried on my iPad and computer, no luck on either,

This is great and I ams sure will stop your support getting loads of requests of the “what plan nature”.

Using the planner for a half triathlon at the end of June. I have been given 8 weeks of base followed by 14 weeks of build, then specialty. Is the 14 weeks of build a bug? i have never read or heard on the podcast a double build recommendation?

Ah yes that might be another workaround (if both A events are at least 8 weeks apart). Nevertheless a fix would be welcome if workaround is not possible.

+1 on a way to take into account recently completed plans. I’m in week 5 of SSB1 and the builder is telling me to start with another 6 weeks of SSB1. If this is intended and recommended then that’s okay. Otherwise, maybe a way to enter your weaknesses that you would like to work on. I have my A race set as a crit with some other crits and road races in there and would like to work on my sustained power. My current progression is SSB 1&2 → Sustained Build → SSB2 → General Build → Crit. This is essentially recommending the same thing but with a General Build in place of the sustained build. So and option to work on weaknesses if you have the extra time would be great.

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Looks great, always fun to test out new features!

I’m going to echo what some other people have said though, that a way to either:

  • Specify training you’ve already completed OR
  • Build a training plan that starts in the past

Would make this an even better tool.