šŸŽ‰šŸŽ‰šŸŽ‰ Introducing Plan Builder! šŸŽ‰šŸŽ‰šŸŽ‰

Wamt to play with this…but also don’t want to ruin/delete my painstakingly self planned whole year ahead plans I’ve done…does it show you the recommendations before clicking go?

Suppose I could put same events in for 2021 and run plan builder for 2021 to play with it - would that work?

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I’m unable to schedule a plan with the Plan Builder. In the last step when I press ā€œschedule planā€ it loads for a few seconds then nothing happens. Nothing appears in my calendar.

I tried it with Chrome and Brave as a browser. I use a windows 10 computer.

Edit: It is the data (I think) which I used to make it fail. When I tried without adding an event everything went just fine. When I added my events it wouldn’t schedule the plan to my calendar

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Fantastic feature. Can you add an overview after we add it to calendar? On link to overview like shown at the end of the build process.

Thanks

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Great, just in time to plan for next year too! No wonder everyone was super busy :smiley:

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Hi, as a couple of others have mentioned, I’m approaching the end of SSB1 MV. Going through the plan it has me repeating 3 weeks before moving into SSB2. I dont really want to repeat these weeks - is there a way of selecting the start plan? Next year when starting afresh it looks awesome!!!

I added an April and a September A race. It worked out the plan for both!

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Yes, you can preview prior to accepting it

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Man I’m loving it !!!

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It worked really well for me. Gave me the build for my 2 A events. I’ll have to pick some of my B events now and see how it works!

Two things

  1. The planned vacation bit would really help, as I already have next years holiday booked
  2. I picked Gravel as my A Events (which is what they are) - it gave me General Build and Rolling Road Race. The plans I’d self picked were Sustained Power and Century - I know I could just pick Gran Fondo, but gives me food for thought!
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I threw in a few of my races next year and one thing I noticed is that it seems to struggle with very high TSS B events. As in during what should be a non recovery week there is only 2 one hour workouts during the week on Tuesday and Wednesday (on high volume plan) when I have a 300 TSS race on the saturday, but it still includes a pretty large workout the day after, which seems contrived. A screenshot is below.

I get that it is probably just compensating for the a large hit of TSS in one day, however I am wondering if there is a better way to do this. Cutting volume prior to the event doesn’t seem as important as after the event to fully recover.

In my opinion just dropping days because you have a hard workout on the weekend isn’t a very elegant solution, especially considering this is on a high volume plan when you are on the bike 6 days a week even during the recovery week. Maybe if you have a really high TSS B race the plan could replace your normal workouts with a ā€œ-1ā€ or ā€œ-2ā€ variants for a couple of days before and after the race to compensate for this additional TSS, or maybe even schedule an aerobic recovery day instead of an interval session on Tuesday or something like that. Although I imagine that this would probably be a pretty considerable change to how this feature works.

Also, don’t know if it was planned but the schedule didn’t include an opener workout the day before my A race (or B races when I checked the ā€œopeners for B racesā€ option). It might say you can add these or not in the weekly tips but I think it would be nicer to include an opener workout in the plan so people have a structure and good idea of what that might be.

I also put in an A race at the end of July, after the previous A race at the start of May. It structured the time so there is 1 recovery week after a full training cycle before jumping into Sustained power high volume and Century plan. That seems pretty full on, including a rest block of a few recovery weeks if you two A races more than 8 weeks apart would be good I think.

There seems to be room for improvement on how the feature structures training around events. Having said that, it is a pretty cool feature and will give people structure to a whole season with little thought or room for confusion. Hope some of that is useful.

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This is really an awesome feature and a big step in a very important direction.

If I may ask for more, I’d really appreciate, if the builder would make recommendations based on my training I did the last weeks (and not asking me about only hours in the last weeks as a first step). TR has all the information, not only time but TSS and IF, so the builder could make very precise recomendations on the best volume and intensity for the next weeks.

It would be then awesome, if the builder could also include a progression in volume.
For example, it could ask me, how many days I’d like to train. And if my current fitness would allow only a low volume approach, it could help build me up from a low volume to a mid volume plan.

Maybe I ask for too much, but you have so much data and it’d be awesome if that’d be included in the planning.

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Fantastic feature guys - I’ve just been having a play with it and first impressions are super positive :+1:

Question - I’m currently third of the way through SSB LV2.

I don’t want to repeat SSB1 & SSB2 and would like to go into the build portion of my training ahead of a B event multi day Fondo in March and then my A event (short course Crit) in April

Is it possible to tell the builder that I’ve already done the base training part of ā€˜base-build-speciality’?

Currently the system sets me up for an abridged B-B-S that is based around me starting the programme at a date just after SSBLV2 ends (end of December 2019).

Or do I have to re-set my entire training back to a date I the past (when I actually began my SSBLV1 in September) so that it can then take all this time into account?

Thanks again for this great new feature :grin: :ok_hand:

Dave

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Nice feature!

I just set up a training plan for next year, starting January 6th. It has me starting with SSB LV1. However, it starts at week two of SSB, omitting the first week which starts with the ramp test. There is a block notation for Base1 in the week before the start of the plan so it seems to be a bug.

Cheers!

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This looks fantastic, thanks to all at TR!

I’d like to see some more detail on the step where you choose your experience level. The phrases ā€œsome interval trainingā€ vs ā€œa lot of interval trainingā€ are subjective and in my case that choice has a significant impact on the generated plan. I’m not sure which way I will go.

Ideally this level could be chosen automatically based on our prior workout history, but I’m sure that’s something for the future! In the meantime, having more guidelines around making this choice would help a lot.

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Experimenting now, but am stuck on ā€˜events’ tab - have added a few A and B events, any ideas why I can’t click next?

They need to be a minimum of 8 weeks apart I believe. Although I’m not sure why as that’s an issue I would have imagined.

I read A events do, and I only have one of them. Will try and mark a couple of the less important ā€˜B’ as ā€˜C’ and see what happens.

EDIT: Nothing…

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What if I want to go the traditional base route instead of the ssb1 and 2?

I’m guessing it’s still being developed as it’s pretty inflexible at the moment.

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Is the last event an A event? I thought I saw someone above say it didn’t like if their season didn’t end on an A race.

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For us older folks, is there a way to switch on added rest weeks (i.e. 3 rest weeks over the SSBHV1&2 or rest weeks every 3 rather than 4 weeks in build)? Or do I need to do this manually and shift things around?

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