Apologies in advance if this has been specified on this post or podcast but is the recommendation from TrainerRoad to use the plan builder in place of what I/we have scheduled in up until My A-Race next year and then delete it my old planned workouts?
Context
Completed SSBMV1 and 2 twice
Currently in second week of Sustained
Working towards 40TT for a 40K TT race next March
I’m assuming yes, but I have been having good success the last few plans so am reluctant to do so unless I get a good indication this is the way to go now.
To be honest, I’d carry on as planned, and then try the plan builder after your A race. The plan builder does what you’ve done manually, it puts the existing plans in the right order and timeslots for you, but it doesn’t create all new plans or workouts or anything like that.
The plan builder doesn’t really recognise what you’ve been doing so far (as a workaround, you can start the plan in the past), so wouldn’t really take that into account and would likely give you at least a bit of a return to SSB.
You can also just try it, you end up with an overview page to see the result, and as long as you don’t click ‘apply to calendar’, your calendar won’t be changed.
it would be great if there was a way to specify how much time one has available on any given day - e.g.: I can (choose to, willing to, etc.) only fit ~45 mins long workouts during the week, so the generated plan, while would prepare me well, is not helpful at this point, I’m back to manually picking/adapting plans (e.g.: SS base but with -1/-2 versions, etc)
Thanks Trainerroad! You have just life so much easier for me!!! I love your “Let’s do the thinking for you, all you have to do is push those pedals”-attitude!!! Long subscriber, and with additions like these, for years to come!
More of a ‘how to use’/best practise query than anything else. I’ve used the builder to create a plan for my A race next June - all good there.
If I then want to think about what to do after June (i.e. working towards a big stage MTB race in 2021), do I just create another plan through Plan Builder starting from the week after my 2020 ‘A’ Race (taking the approach of using plan builder ‘per season’)?
Although you can see each block of the currently applied plan, there isn’t a route (that I’ve found) to get access back into the ‘My Current Plan’ overview screen you see before you apply the plan in plan builder. It would be a nice to have to get a ‘Plan Overview’ screen up that showed you an outline of you current plan, with the blocks in summary and your planned events. Really just a high level calendar view I guess.
Hi
I think this plan builder is great. just one question
i belong to a Criterium club. we race from February to December almost every Sunday. however in September we have our club champs 4 races which are scored by your position 1st 2nd or 3rd. the reason for 4 races is the there are 4 different tracks we use a flat sprinters course , a slightly hilly course mixed sprint/climber, steep climbing course and a flat endurance. These are all a week apart and my A races for 2020. How do i set this up in the plan builder?
I would make the weekly races C or B priority. The difference is that a B race will have a rest day before (or just an opener), and C might not (depending on how you set up your training days).
For the series of A races - you can onky have one A race in that short timespan. Plan builder will time it so that you finish with a taper week before that race, and a recovery week after. If there is one of the races that you want to target specifically, eg the climbing one, you could make that your target A (and the others B), but you will then still be training through the first ones. If you just want to do well in all of them, I’d make the first one A and hang on to your fitness for the other 3 - realistically you won’t get to train much anyway. I’d also consider classifying it as a ‘rolling road race’ or something general for the plan builder, so you include variety for the climbing and endurance events too. If you tell plan builder its a crit, you’ll get a short power build plan.
Good call I was thinking the first race as A race then try hanging on to the fitness for the rest of the races make them B races. The rolling road race will also help me with the Grand Fondo plans for the year. My Saturday is usually a no-drop group ride with a TSS of 150 and 2-3 hrs
Just tried to sift though the thread for an answer with no luck.
Is there a way to manually recalculate the plan after removing an event or do I need to delete the plan and the event in question then re-build a new plan? Cheers.
I’m a Triathlete and train my swim regularly together with my mates in a local swimclub.
I also usually take a 12-week “cleansing-break” from running in Winter.
Editing out those trainings in the calender when choosing a triathlon-plan was a bit annoing in the past, but doable.
It becomes a mess with the plan-builder.
So my suggestion is: Please add a function to opt out swim and run trainings when using the Plan Builder!
I’m behind on my podcasts but just learned about Plan Builder from the last podcast. This is amazing. As someone who has effectively been off the bike for 6 months (other than some fun miles and a charity ride) due to a relocation and job change, I’ve been struggling with getting back into training. I finally have my indoor workout space set up and have given it a few shake down runs but was feeling daunted with the task of starting a program. I don’t have any events planned, heck I don’t really even know whats available in this area yet, so was mentally struggling with what I should knowing it will change in the future. It looks like PB takes all the guess work out and I can just start something know and it will auto adjust as I start adding events to my calendar. Superb!
Based on listening to the podcast and this (massive) thread, I think it is designed to function on a season by season basis. Planning our a formal training plan for longer than that is pretty difficult and I’m not sure the logic is set up for multi-season/year planning. That being said, I wonder if it might be useful since the builder would then take into account work done in 2020 when crafting the 2021 season plan. As it stands, the builder does not account for prior work, so, if you set it up as 2 separate builds it might not be optimized in light of work done/in progress.
Great new feature. My question, and sorry if it has been answered already, is:
If I add races after I have generated the plan, will the custom plan change to accommodate the new events or do I have to delete the old plan and get a new custom plan?
So in building my plan it suggests low volume due to my not having trained very much over the past 6 weeks which is fair, but as I progress how do I increase volume if needed? It seems to stay low volume for the whole year. I only say this is I typically would start with or transition to mid volume in the past so I’m not unaccustomed to it but there doesn’t seem to be a mechanism to increase.