You could do the 20 minute test outside, but we wouldnāt automatically calculate your FTP. Just take your best 20 minute power from the test and multiply by .95.
We think itās better to do the ramp test indoors in a repeatable environment though.
Lol. Also a v happy customer- keep up the great work TR!
You know what, Iām the guy who does trainer intervals in the summer (unless Iām travelling). And what you said is what occurred to me just recently. As a non-draft-legal triathlete Iām all about steady efforts, unlike road and MTB, but the gusts of wind alone that hit you when youāre riding outside (Iām not talking hurricanes) make it impossible, unless there is very little or no wind. Even when targeting a relatively broad power range like tempo, wind will push you between high-moderate (zone 2) and sweet spot, with too little time to react. And it doesnāt have to be strong wind.
Iāve been āsuprisedā in the past by bike sections of races that took a bigger toll on my legs than they should have. Maybe itās this thing. I canāt say if these races were windier or not.
DCR posted a writeup on this announcement, for those interested.
Nope, gonna stay stoked. Keep up the good work and Iāll wait semi-patiently 
@Nate_Pearson, first great job with this new feature which I have been waiting for a while. I just started using it. I have some doubts as to some of the alternative workouts:
Were still updating those. Weāre going to try to do a 1:1 for them.
Any comments on how to know if you ānailedā an interval?
Say I have 10ā at 270 watts
My interval is 270 watts but an IF of 1.2
Does it mean I wasnāt steady enough and didnāt really obtain the intended benefit of the interval?
Is there and IF target I should look for after to tell me how well I did on it?
You and many others are overthinking it. Yes, there are many ways to ride 10min and get an avg power of 270W. However, if you finished the interval w/a 270W avg and did your best to be smooth, then you nailed it. Only you know how much room for improvement there is regarding being smoother on the power delivery. Only you know how much the wind or terrain affected your power delivery.
If you had finished the 10min w/an 267avg, would you say you failed the interval? I think not. It not like you have to do exactly 270W for 10min w/zero fluctuations in order to get the intended training stimulus.
Set a screen on your head unit that has 10s and lap avg power. Goal is to keep the lap avg power at the the target watts (e.g., 270W). The 10s power will be more erratic, but give you an idea of how much your power is actually moving around. Use the 10s when you get started to prevent you from jumping out too hard, the lap avg power will eventually come up to where you want it, then settle down and ride. Donāt panic if the lap avg power drops a bit, just add a tiny bit more pressure and it will come back up. This takes practice.
Yep
YES!!! Super excited, TR keeps getting better, good job.
As feedback: I think this is a superb feature and will be even better once I can push it to my Wahoo. Havenāt done a lot of rides with it yet but really like a few things with it:
I am a mountain biker so would be cool to see workout variants with normalized power for trail riding. This is a minor thing because this system allows me to do this anyway. Good job!
I have to say, Iām still enjoying the āindoorā workouts outside more than the āoutsideā workouts.
Also, Iām still not sure how weāre saying āAll TSS are not equalā in relation to these work outs?
If I do 7x4min at 112% outside, how is that any different than 7x4min at 112% inside? I find that when I run the āindoorā workouts outside, Iām still hitting the exact same TSS, average watts, NP, IF, HR, etcā¦ so Iām a little confused on why we need different stimulus outside as opposed to inside?
If this is truly the case, should perhaps the indoor workouts be redesigned to match our outdoor efforts? I mean, isnāt riding outdoors the end game? So if the indoor workouts donāt match up, then they are not a match for the actual demands we will place on our bodies riding outside right?
In short, one benefit of structured training (especially inside) is about making the most of our time on the bike to get the biggest benefit for our needs. Outside riding is still essential for anyone hoping to apply that improved fitness in events outside, as group skills, handling and such are also important aspects to cultivate. So the ultimate approach will include an appropriate mix.
The movement to taking the inside training outside is more about the fact that most people ENJOY riding outside, where they do inside because āthey have toā or want to make the most of limited time. Moving outside introduces way more variability and is less āefficientā when compared to inside, but has many other benefits (as above) and can make it rewarding in different ways.
This might have been covered elsewhere didnāt see in the bits of the tread Iāve read, is there an option to up your FTP for outside rides? My FTP for the trainer is probably 10-15% lower than outside looking at my last few rides they have been 3.5 hours @ .95 or 1.25 hours @ 1.05. I could change it each time and this time of year feel my outdoor FTP is probably a better metric in TR to stop TSS being over calculated.
Yup, covered above.
TR is not planning to support multiple FTP values.
Thanks more searching and I found those bits - not particularly helpful for those of us that have this issue either I need to update a lot (so have multiple edits a week) or have too hard indoor training or too easy outdoor training. What I might end up doing is setting my FTP to my outside one then compensating with reducing work intensity but that will still impact on indoor rides having lower TSS
This might have been covered elsewhere didnāt see in the bits of the tread Iāve read, is there an option to up your FTP for outside rides? My FTP for the trainer is probably 10-15% lower than outside looking at my last few rides they have been 3.5 hours @ .95 or 1.25 hours @ 1.05. I could change it each time and this time of year feel my outdoor FTP is probably a better metric in TR to stop TSS being over calculated.
You might want to look into cooling. But if you think your outside FTP is more accurate, set your outside FTP for indoor rides and reduce intensity. Likely, any performance disadvantage is due to cooling, in which case, the reduced TSS indoors would be accurate. 
As above, they arenāt currently planning to support more than one FTP, inside, outside or any other name. They will only have one FTP value in your settings, as I understand it right now.
People have discussed the option of having the TR FTP set to one value (letās say inside version), and then swap it to the outside value before doing an outside workout.
You could also keep the main FTP, and then manually edit the FTP in the completed workout with the āEditā option in the 3-dots (under the graphic).
Either approach seams to lead to issues with TSS tracking over time. I know others understand the implications far better than I do (I only know it is something that will affect the results). So I donāt know which option would be the better of the less-than-ideal solutions above.
Iām not sure if this is your issue also, but when my ride gets synced from Strava (vs Garmin Connect), I notice a lower TSS (and total time) due to the privacy zone I have activated in Strava. For example, todayās ride Log In to TrainerRoad shows 99TSS and 1:22:02 ride time on TR, but the ride was actually 108 TSS and 1:31:04
I guess Iām willing to put up with that to maintain the privacy zone.
**edit. I see this has already been suggestedā¦