@STP, youāre just place name dropping now.
That is Beverly Hills, Michigan, not Beverly Hills, CA.
I heard itās just as good.
For those of us that do not use Garmins, are there plans for .fit workout export feature?
I totally get why youāre not opening that can of worms @Nate_Pearson! It sounds like most users here have a rough idea what their āeffective FTPā is in different situations. It might be helpful to specify the percentage-of-FTP ranges alongside power ranges in the outdoor workout description. Then users can more easily apply this in different situations.
Thinking longer term, once you have have enough data for a user in different situations (indoor/outdoor, hills/flat, road bike/TT bike, etc.) youād totally be able to specify situation-dependent power ranges without making broad āyour outdoor FTP is Xā statements. The key is knowing what the user was aiming for, which this outdoor feature gives you.
Love the new feature - going to give it a good test in the morning! Good job TR team 
Iām SO STOKED about this. Iāve been doing TrainerRoad in winter and TrainingPeaks plans in outdoor season and have always wanted to do Chadās plans year round, Iāve always felt heās the most up-to-date on things and I really canāt think of an advantage to TrainingPeaks anymore other than using a coach or sending workouts to the Garminā¦ and here we are. I store a lot of metrics in TrainingPeaks like Whoop data and subjectives, but Iāve yet to bother consulting the graphs. I just follow the plans.
My current plan ends in a couple weeks, itāll be awesome to be able pick up from there with TrainerRoad workouts. Awesome work as usual TrainerRoad. 
@Nate_Pearson & @chad Iām confused about inside vs. outside duration and TSS differences. I mean, I get that riding outside typically isnāt as nonstop as on the trainer. But within a given workout type, isnāt TSS still TSS?
For example, yesterday I had Collins (75 min. endurance for 58 TSS) scheduled. When I flipped it to āDo Outsideā I got Laramie (90 min. endurance for 70 TSS). If riding outside might introduce more coasting or stopping at intersections, those donāt add at all to TSS right? The more coasting and stopping you do, the longer it will naturally take to reach the same TSS. So why actually go for more TSS outside than had been planned?
I feel like everyone is getting way to caught up with outside rides being an exact replacement for inside. TR just took what they had in their library and matched them up. Donāt fuss about a few TSS points here and there. If you feel you need less just modify or ease off a bit. Iāve said it beforeā¦ Everyone takes these workouts as gospel. You donāt need to hit the numbers exact day in day out. TR is an amazing product and I follow it the best I can but itās a guideline. Youāre not going to torpedo your season with 12 extra TSS.
Iām typing this as I cool down from a āfailedā workout because I went harder than I was āscheduledā to do yesterday. It was a nice day and I wanted to go for it. No concern about missing a bit today.
Iām just confused about replacing straightforward uncomplicated indoor workouts with something different for outdoors.
I totally get creating outdoor variants for complicated workouts that would be tough the execute outdoors, but 3 sets fo 3x3ā @ 120% for instance is easy to do outside. Why replace it with 5x4ā @ 110%?
Yes, iāve been wondering and asking the same thing.
I do most structured training inside. However, on a nice day I enjoy going for a ride outside and I often want to throw in some intervals as part of the ride. Just so it isnāt always just riding around randomly (although those rides are also nice as well). So, having the ability to have a interval session on my Garmin will be nice. I would just ride for however long I want (the āwarm upā), do the intervals, and ride some more (the ācool downā).
For me the joy of cycling is being outside. I donāt mind training indoor. I am lucky enough to be able to cycle outside at least once a week all year round. Not saying it is pleasant in the winter 
I want to be out in the fresh air, enjoy the ride. If I can train at the same time, even better.
I donāt see that setting. Where is it? This might be a silly question and might be the reason. I sync my workouts via Strava. I found it more reliable. Do I have to link Garmin Connect instead? In the past this was to allow Trainerroad to sync from Garmin, but now they will want to send to Garmin. Will this be turned on Trainerroad end of the Garmin end?
Agreed.
And she has years and years of fitness already done she can build off of. Not discrediting TR at all, but where I live in CO, the fast gals and guys are not sitting on their trainer doing these workouts unless itās a blizzard. Some are, but itās a special balance. I pretty much do all of my recovery rides inside. Plus I have roads with barely any cars where I can do repeats, long intervals etc.
Some outside variants arenāt a good match or are just wrong. Do an inside version if it makes more sense and/or file an issue. I already did for my tomorrowās session and it was wrong replacement as TR support confirmed.
Not sure what youāre agreeing to. That you canāt get fast from the trainer or that fast people āyou knowā live in places where outdoor training allows good structure? Iād argue both are possible 
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I must admit, I donāt get the big deal if Iām honest. TR has said many times that indoors provided more structured and focussed environment for training and I agree completely.
In my experience, the problem I have doing outside workouts was never āwhat is the workout?ā- most of the workouts not that hard to remember (2x20 mins at ftp, 8 x 3 mins at 120% etc). The issue has always been finding suitable roads without lights, traffic, roundabouts etc. to do them on and put consistent power down. I canāt see how hour outside will be better training (physicallyā¦mentally I can see) than indoors with no stoppages etc. I do wonder if this runs risk of many people now jumping outside and losing focus and hence great training gains that many of us see from TR.
Just playing devilās advocate, but for me - indoors for training and outdoors for racing and (occassionally) fun.
I can see your point of view, for you and many others. For me it is about the outside, and being on the bike. I donāt race. My job keeps me at my desk. Part of my mental get away is cycling outside.
To be fair, I have plenty of roads where I live that are safe and continuous. I am pleased Trainerroad is offering something for every type of cyclist. I can now go out on my bike and have some structure. If I want to cycle I can, if I want to train I can.
Indoors is certainly more time efficient. Excellent or good structure outside is absolutely possible, depending on the roads where you live. Like bazcurtis above, I need the outside rides to mentally decompress and release work stress. Indoor training helps a bit with relieving stress, but hitting numbers in the garage is not why I got into cyclingā¦ Trainer work is a means to an end.
Totally agree and each to there ownā¦I just donāt see why (with right roads) people couldnāt do 90% of workouts outside before if they so wanted to? I know some of the workouts have been redesigned /adapted a bit to make them easier outdoors so maybe that is the big new change?