This is really good news. It will help fill a big gap between the platforms and also facilitate head unit integration with Garmin devices.
Iāve also seen that. I get that more time is needed outside to get the same TSS due to coasting, stopping, etc. But why does the TSS go up significantly for an outside ride?
For example, Andrews is 73 TSS and the suggested outside ride (Mica) is TSS of 115 (57.5% increase). Thatās like adding Pettit to Andrews if I did them on a trainer.
I wondered about that too.
Obviously I donāt know the answer to this, but maybe if you spread the TSS out over a longer period of time you need to increase the amount of TSS for the same training adaptation.
Like they say on the podcast : ānot all TSS is equalā. A 60-minute workout with TSS of 100 has more intensity in it than a 75-minute workout with TSS of 100. So maybe the 75-minute workout, in addition to the extra time - needs more total TSS to get the same training adaptation because of the difference in intensity.
Because stopping at an intersection wonāt decrease TSS but it will negatively impact training adaptations.
Could you help clarify, you need a full trainingpeaks account at yet another Ā£10/month over TR to do thisā¦ in Garmin connect workout i could do it for freeā¦ i now have a Wahoo and disappointed with the lack of ability to do it in one of their fitness apps etcā¦ am I correct or is there another way please sir !
My understanding is the āfreeā version allows you to make workouts on the day of, or day before you workout. The āpaidā version is unlimited in the timing.
Here is some more detailed info:
With TrainingPeaks free, you can only create a workout for today today and tomorrow.
I tried last week and it failed. But was able to force it using WKO4. Looks like something changed.
In reality, stopping at a traffic light does decrease TSS. Because there is a period of time where your power output is zero and that should be added in with all the other times when you are moving. Most people use autopause to not count those times on their head units but even so this dead time really does occur and affect the normalized and average powers.
True, but even if you donāt use auto-pause, and you make sure you go 3 extra minutes at the end of the interval that you stopped during, the made up time will not make up for the interruption in the interval. That is whatās not accounted for in TSS. 20 minutes of Threshold are not the same as 10 minutes + 1 minutes stopped + 10 minutes.
Once you have the workout set up on trainingpeaks how do you get it on to the head unit?
I donāt know, LOL. I havenāt gotten that far yet 
I will see if I can find the instructions.
What head unit do you have (I know the process varies)?
Wahoo
Garmin
hahahah - thanks Iāve got the element bolt
I mean, yes, thatās sort of there in what its displaying, but the functionality of a continuously rolling workout doesnāt really work outdoors in my opinion. You need the ability to advance through the intervals on your own, not purely based on the clock.
Not sure why it wasnāt working for you earlier, but the free TrainingPeaks has been like that for quite a while. You can make planned workouts for the current or next day.
Have you tried the buttons that appear when you pause the planned workout? (Despite the name, thatās separate from pausing recording your overall workout.)
To quote the DCR review:
In addition, you can also fast forward and rewind through the workout; useful if you need to add extra intervals, or if outdoors and something goes askew and you need to restart an interval. An example being that somehow road-life got in the way and 15 seconds into a 5 minute interval you hit a stop-light. This would allow you to reset the interval and start again. Brilliant ā something Iāve not seen on any other head unit. Itās the two little << >> buttons.
Sorry. Iām the dunce sitting at the back of the class not listening (and I canāt find a definitive answer)
So how can I do an outdoor workout without a power meter? (which I donāt own?)
Amazing job yet again TR. Utterly awesome progression.
Hi Nate and TrainerRoad team, this is an award winning formula which ties all aspects of structured training and not only provides the structure of utilizing and analyzing your data based on different variables which indoor training does not provide (i.e. terrain, curves, agility based on poor road conditions or obstacles which need micro reaction, elevation, a cyclist biggest gripe and plotting during a race - the wind direction, proper utilization of breaks or not utilizing at all). While I have become of huge advocate for indoor training and the use of TrainerRoad with my peer and community, it comes the time skills and handling are not taught in a class room. Hitting the home runs have to be taught in the field. I thank you guys for all the advancements made and the many more to develop from this great platform. 5 stars and Nobel prize.