Iñigo San Millán training model

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Maybe you need to check in on this spam tool? It seemed to delete all of Worawut’s posts yesterday including some replies.

I thought it was overaggressive moderation with a subtext I didn’t understand.

The spam tools doesn’t have control over anything on the forum. It just flags things for us to review.

I just did some digging and it looks like that post from @Worawut was flagged by another forum user and I approved it. I think that was my fault for not looking closer. Again, we review quite a few flags each ay.

My apologies! I’ll be more diligent moving forward. :sweat_smile: :handshake:

There are still quite a few missing posts from this thread. I don’t see the original post from Worawut or any of the responses to it?

When I deleted the post, it likely took direct responses with it. I was able to restore all of those posts. Take a look.

I see them now! Ty.

ChatGPT is a probabilistic language generator. It is not a reliable source of truth.

I mean it always tells me my training is revolutionary and amazing so it must be correct.

It is very good at reflecting bsck at you, whatever you ask.

My Hospital test from last year and this year.

There are 2 Fatmax points, Higher is Z1, a little lower one is Z2.

I was not improving as much as I expected. I think I was training too much or not optimal fueling. I just started training and learning from ChatGPT. Next year I will do the test again and I will see how it goes.

Absolutely. Same with me

There should not be 2 Fatmax points, not sure how the test you did was designed but I would expect to see a slowly increasing amount of fat oxidation before it peaks and decreases again as intensity increases. Having 2 peaks is very strange.

It’s an interesting thing to track over seasons but how do you apply knowing your Fatmax point to your training?

This is my Friend ‘s Hospital test. Also 2 fatmax.

Zone 1 is easy/recovery ride. Zone 2 is uncomfortable but manageable pace.

This is 2020 test. When I was 38. Only 1 Fatmax.

I think it depends on how I train and when I tested it.

At that time I was very fit and fast uphill.(no Zone2 training) but 2 recent tests that I did I am not race ready.(Just training steady Z2 a lot)

Maybe I am very fit and fast like 2020 I will do the test to make comparison.

What was the protocol? There is no physiological reason to see two peaks but if it’s a protocol that does not have longer steps it could easily just be noisy data.

How are you applying this to your training?

I do the test at hospital to see how I progress, this year I use less carbs at the same z2 intensity so it is a positive sign and If you see in the chart my carbs oxidation didn’t drop fast at Z4 so it is a good sign.

And ChatGPT can give information of how much carbs I use, where is my LT1 or how should I train to get an idea. Also can make comparison between my test results. And training is normal just eat more carbs.

To improve fat oxidation you have to train easy first. At age 33 I did my first Vo2max test in another hospital. My fat max is 118-111 bpm range. I have to ride around 90-120W despite my Vo2max intensity was 410-440W and in one month my power at that HR improve so I did another test on the right.

I was wondering what the test protocol was? One with very short steps could explain the 2 peaks in fat oxidation error.

Still curious as to how this informs your training beyond tracking progress.

What was your fat max

There are training methods that I learned from my training experience.(I was a coach and also bike fitter before.(For amateur/beginner level) But I will not go into details. However what I tell is true.

Dr.Inigo is a genius and I learn a lot about his work from this forum so I share it back. If you invest your time into training like I did, eventually you will know it too.

I am glad it works for you.

Ok?

Again I am happy the training you are following is working. But it’s still very unclear what the genius that ISM prescribes actually is.

I am interested in the why for the specifics of riding at Fatmax or what the protocol you used to determine it was. But if you don’t want to say it’s all good.