nope, do not spread rumours. this guy was clearly not AC.
Bruh. The screen name was even wrong
Agree. At the time, it was a joke. How do I know? Because I’m the one who made the joke.
Marketing to people that want to believe. Every once in awhile he says something interesting.
You guys should have appreciated him more while he was here….as rancid and crusty as he was.
He sucked the life out of this place and constantly derailed topics. He stalked and drove a highly respected coach away from the site who was willing to share their knowledge freely. A good topic got deleted because of him.
there are other reasons that thread got deleted
It has always been tricky to tease out what ideas came from AC and what ideas are Hunter Allen. This recent podcast makes some areas a bit clearer.
Not only that, Coggan makes a subtle distinction between an exercise physiologist (his profession) and a sports scientist. I think this likely went over the heads of many. It does speak to why he simply doesn’t bother with certain questions in the field.
Stop pedaling this nonsense.
I started the thread and know exactly why it was deleted.
I hope to one day join the ranks of forum content creator
Wish it, want it, do it
What was the tread about? Sorry I remember the thread, and it getting deleted at the request of KM, IIRC, but not what it was about.
Yes, he requested it but it had become a crap show because of you know who. I have the DMs being asked to delete it (which I could not do) and then Chad did it.
I guess the DMs should have been a red flag to hit the print to pdf button and archive it, if you thought it had some real insights.
Not really. It’s just a bike forum. We’ll all live on without that topic and the antagonist.
Back on the San Millan topic…
I recently began implementing the “San Millan” style of training. Just for fun and a change. I even did a lactate test to make sure I was at the right sort of level.
The interesting bit, it’s not what most would think of as Z2. It’s basically tempo for me. If I redline it and sit right on LT1. It’s proper. If I could do 4hrs at LT1 I’d be as strong as a bull.
Unsurprisingly, I’ve gotten stronger, likely purely because I’m doing way less noodling Z2 rides.
I suspect that many think he means Coggan Z2. Bottom of the zone, middle of the zone, whatever. Miles from what actually riding around right on LT1 feels like. It’s work. You know you’re training. Focus is needed.
I would sum it up as, the power where it goes from normal endurance riding, I’m pretty happy, to this is kinda uncomfortable.
If Pogacar is riding around at LT1 for 6hrs, no wonder he’s a monster.
No wonder Tim Wellens said his new training is hard, it is hard.
I’d officially call San Millan Z2… not zone 2. Zone 3 for me.
Legit.
For how long did you implement it? In dimension of weeks. Asking because of overload/accumulating fatigue. Depending on my/your fitness that is not an easy task.
Funny you should say that. I’ve come to exactly that conclusion. In my case my Aerobic Threshold falls at approx 150W whereas my LT1 at 0.5 mol above base falls at 175W. 160-175W is low Z3 for me and squarely where I interpret ISM Z2. It is not a place that is long term easy for me.
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I‘ve been at it 3 months now, and can sustainably hit 3 hours in that zone 3 times a week, plus 2 long weekend rides.
That first 15 minutes is invariably „Jeez, no way I can hold this power today“. The last hour is usually „I really wish I didn’t have to stop for work, this is such a nice workout“. Go figure! I do bake in some VO2 work in one or two of these rides, as ISM recommends.
Last week AIFTP assigned me my highest FTP ever (351W vs previous PB at 346W), and yesterday I hit a 30s lifetime PR at 920W.
ISM Z2 ~ low tempo simply works for me…![]()
The groans of the field once you crest a hill and happily settle right back at your ISM Z2 watts in a race are so worth it, too ![]()