This was more about crash after the PWO meal and how to minimise that.
I think @russell.r.sage was replying to @GoLongThenGoHome.
Nah, probably same effect.
I’d just add a bit of fat and fiber to the post-workout meal, and plan to eat again sooner.
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I’m arguing that everyone has enough fuel in their muscles and liver to fuel their VO2 max workout anyway. That’s it’s not necessary or even desirable to ask the stomach to digest food during a highly intense workout. Workouts are hard enough without adding additional demands
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I think most would disagree that fueling their workout isn’t worthwhile. Not once ever did I feel like mixes and gels diverted energy away from my muscles for “digestion.” I can almost feel the sugar hitting the blood stream and giving me a boost. We’re not talking about digesting a meal, we’re talking about carb absorption.
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Dude, don’t bother. He’s been here arguing with everyone that eating is bad. I’ve said it multiple times that there are a few occasions where fasted rides can be beneficial, but not consistent for all workouts.
I’m with you-you can feel the sugar coursing through you almost immediately as it gives you those few extra watts.
If eating during a ride was asking too much of your stomach and was bad for you, we’d never see rides or races over an hour. Tell a grand your rider that they are asking too much of their body by eating during an effort and see what happens 
My problem with this circular argument he’s making is that he’s positing fueling is bad for everyone in all circumstances because it stresses your body. Categorical and absolute statements like that are harder to swallow than carb mix with no water. It’s fine if someone wants to do that on their own, but to argue absolutely everyone else here is wrong is madness.
Whoa no one was talking fasted rides. We are talking about eating during the vo2 max intervals. We are not talking fasted riding by any stretch of the imagination. Remember vo2 max sessions are short, they are not glycogen emptying sessions unless you are not eating normally day to day, week to week.
I was basing my response on this statement, which is effectively fasting.
Nope, it means having a normal balanced diet, eating at your normal times, and taking in enough calories for the amount of exercise you do. Fasting means restricting the calories and / or the make up of them. I never suggested restricting calories. I just don’t see it as necessary to take them in during a VO2 max session which is necessarily going to be short.
I like food so I eat and during high intensity exercise most bodies are thankful for high glycemic carbohydrates.
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