Now that these have been out for a while just wondering if anyone regrets buying a pair. I ride gravel, MTB and some road so the idea of a pedal based power meter vs a crank appeals to me. I’m not winning any races so I’m also not sure I need dual sided… but I do love data
I have had these for several years, I love them. They’re expensive but I’ve never had any tech issues, and it’s so nice having a pedal based pm that’s compatible with all my mountain and gravel bikes.
I have had them for a couple years, also.
No major issues that made me regret buying them. They’ve had a couple little things like dropouts here and there, but I think it was from the cheap batteries I was using, and low power batteries.
The other thing is make sure you follow the set up instructions, specifically installation tourque recommendations. If you don’t have a torque wrench, I just crank them down as hard as I can, kind of.
That’s about it, no complaints, would buy again.
I bought the single sided version (xc100) last year and have no regrets. I’ve replaced the battery once so far.
Single sided. No problems. Works nicely in the garmin ecosystem
I have the XC200 and if I had to go back, I would have only purchased the XC100. The extras that the XC200 offer were neat for the first month, and now I don’t even look at it. The pedal are nice and like others said, work great with the Garmin system. I don’t regret the purchase but could have saved some money by going single sided. I actually just purchased the RS100 for my road bike. They also have a rebate now. $50 off for single sided and $100 off for dual sided. Its at Garminrebates.com.
Wouldn’t it have been better (less expensive to be sure) to buy the conversion kit?
Honestly, I utilized the xc200 for both bikes for about a year, however, I ride road and mountain several times a week and got tired of flipping the pedals from bike to bike. I definitely didn’t want to add the difficulty of swapping out pedal platforms either. Call me lazy but I am glad I have both and don’t have to change from bike to bike anymore. Makes it much simpler to just hop on the bike.
I get it, and that’s why I went Stages Factory Install. I hate changing pedals too, and now have a plethora of different pedals because swapping pedals is a pain, and have actually bought new pedals rather than take pedals on away events and rides. (That way I get new pedals and can toss the old ones and where I have rented, they do the swapping) I have competed (using the term loosely) on my fat bike, and did consider power pedals for that reason, but figured ‘who cares’, and stuck with the main bike with Stages Dual on an R8000 crankset, because ‘who knows when Shimano will go 12-speed’, and when I might follow them too. Hah! 11-speed isn’t dead, especially not now.
The Vector 3 and Rally 200 series (effectively the same thing) test well for me during steady-steady state riding. They’re a good reference point for anything that isn’t a maximal sprint.
For whatever reason both models on the latest firmware had a ton of issues with sprinting >1100W during my recent testing of the Stages R8100 Dual. The Vetors and Rallys reporting 1/2 cadence or 0 rpm, which screwed the power data. Indoor sprinting was ok.
Another issue I’ve had with them in the past also happens after sprinting. They drift a little and need a manual zero to come back into line. Something that’d be difficult to know is happening without two (or more) other meters on the bike.
For the price, they should perform better. They’re AU$400 off at the moment @ AU$1449. Another popular alternative is AU$949, although Look style cleat only.
I’ve had them for about 1.5 years now. Started single sided, then bought the upgrade pedal. It highlighted how lopsided I am and pushed me to get physio to work on it. I initially swapped them a lot, but now mostly leave them on one bike and go by HR on the others. I do still swap them between bikes for races. I haven’t had any issues and I haven’t been super gentle with them.
Important note: they are torque sensitive and not all torque wrenches work on left hand threads.
I bought the XC200’s about 9 months ago, and they’ve been great. Never had any issues with dropouts or anything as long as I keep on top of replacing the batteries every few months. Also got the RS200 conversion kit for Shimano SPD-SL pedals, and my lbs swapped the spindles in 15 mins for me. Can’t tell how accurate the power is in regards to other PM’s, but they are consistent day to day and regardless of what pedal body I use.
Thanks everyone! Decided to go with the XC 100! Excited to finally have some power data for outside!
Depends what you are riding. I ride a lot of technical mtb, pedal strikes and broke two pedals within the year.
Sold it before warranty ran out as I don’t want to pay 150 euro to replace a pedal body.
If i could do it again i’d get a segeyi.
How have the Rally’s been for you? I’m tempted to buy the XC100 with a 20% off coupon.
@downbeat007 I’ve been pretty pleased so far. I didn’t realize how messed up my form is on my left leg - I have an almost 1" leg length discrepancy because of scoliosis and it turns out I almost pull up with my toes rather than push down through the midfoot when I pedal… I had no idea. So I think my data are a little messed up and maybe a bit more variable then someone with normal biomechanicsd. BUT, otherwise I’ve been pleased. Garmin does have a 30 day return policy (even on these) as long as you don’t crash and totally destroy them. And they have good customer service. They even recommended to me that I buy the right pedal and try it for a few weeks to see if the data are changed by having a right and left sensor and if not to just send back the right pedal for a refund.
Thanks for confirming I won’t have any issues with these pedals collecting my sprint data.
I bought vector 3 dual sided before the SPD bodies came out, worked well. Converted to SPD,seemed to work well. Swapping between trainers, travel, MTB and road worked ok, but droputs happened more and more frequently. Changing batteries didnt help, and Gsrmin tech support told me to put baby oil on the electrical contacts, to solve where the plating was wearing off or coroding. On my fat bike this past winter 8+ hours a week from December to April), they were completely unreliable. Wouldn’t zero if outside, and needed to actually warm-up to transmit data when it was below 20F. If coasting down a hill for more than 3 minutes, they would die and have to re warm-up, taking an unknown amount of time, and they would transmit spurious data.
Not being able to calibrate them outdoors in the winter really ticked me off. Garmin wouldn’t/couldn’t help. I bought Quarq PMs for my MTB and gravel bike when they went on fire sales in the spring, and that is what I use now. In the coming winter, I’ll try them again, and probably be frustrated on the fat bike. AI’ll take them if I travel withiut my bike fornuse on a rental or hotel trainer. Asiomos seem to have the best following, and seem to be super reliable with the conversion To SPD.
I haven’t had any problems with my rally xc 200s. Sometimes I’ll get a couple dropouts and haven’t noticed power drifts.
The random dropouts aren’t enough to make me regret my purchase. They work well enough for
riding off road/ on the road and are great for intervals. Been using mine since they released them.
Good choice. Been using mine for years.
Single sided power pedals are less prone to dropouts than dual sided. I had Powertap P1 pedals in the past and the right side would drop out all the time.
Also, you can calibrate your pedals to match your trainer by fudging the crank length in your head unit. Longer = higher power readings. Can’t do that with crank based power meters.