I’ll find out tomorrow when I go for a ride, but testing informally:
An actual bike bell on my desk:
The bell on the 1050, from the same distance:
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Yeah, that isn’t good enough…we need to know the model of real bell you tested, its claimed octave and pitch along with the dB rating.
This is real sciency-schitt here… 
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Let’s wait for @dcrainmaker to set up an anechoic chamber in his pain cave so he can test this conclusively.
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For me, my testing is the ‘Amsterdam Bike Path’ test: Does the bell work well enough to alert people to me coming up behind them, such that they compliantly move out of the way without concurrently giving me a scowl?
And indeed, it does. It’s loud AF. Seriously, super loud. But also manages to sound precisely like a real bike bell. Everyone has simply shifted out of the way, nobody has gotten angry, and I don’t feel weird using it like some of the other electronic bells I’ve tried over the years.
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How likely is it that we’ll see this feature on the new Fenix in september?
I assume it’s not straightforward to use custom sounds…? It’d be entertaining if the bell sound is a little wav or mp3 that’s visible and changeable on the device’s file system. Could be fun to switch for a loud Chitty Chitty Bang Bang hooter, or a Zwift style “RIDE ON!” to use when passing someone, or to freak people out in a group ride!
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Yes, it works great on my Garmin watch. My bank no longer supports Apple Pay… but no reason to have it on my Edge.
You can get a very similar experience on a Garmin watch. I use a Forerunner 965 and have set it up so holding the Start button will open Garmin Pay. After holding that button you can just hold the watch near the terminal and it will pay. If you have not entered the PIN yet, you have to enter that. The PIN will be remembered until you take off the watch and is easy to enter on the newer watches with a touch display. You can also select which card to use by using the up/down keys.
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Unfortunately, not all banks support Apple Pay.
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Somehow I’m guessing there is a high correlation between countries with high iPhone usage and Garmin sales of Edge 1050 devices
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this is a bizarre twist to the thread
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I would say the opposite. iPhone users want intuitive and easy UX, with a good app = Wahoo or Karoo.
Mostly see Garmin with Android users in Sweden.
But here it’s also a major statement to not have iPhone, haha. People who use android are notoriously fast on telling you that they run Android 
Almost like Karoo users… hehe
(I just switched from Wahoo to Karoo)
There is, extremely.
When I talk to all companies in this segment, they continue to see iOS usage in the 60-80% realm for their customer bases. This matches the DCR Site analytics I see as well, and I can even see iOS vs Android trends by cost of device (e.g. Edge 1050 vs slightly older units that are more affordable in various countries).
Simply put, in general (globally), people likely to have more disposable income have iPhones. The map pretty clearly shows that as well.
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I never understood the anti-theft thing.
a) if someone throws your bike in their pickup truck and takes off, you’re out of luck
b) if someone is physically taking your bike, what’re you supposed to do? go out and fight them?
you’re almost inviting a situation by leaving a bike unlocked and out of eyesight. I dunno.
You might mount the Garmin on your computer and open its file system. look for a folder containing some sort of audio file.
If you have that then there might be a xml file that loads and tells it what sound to play. My 840 does not have one I could find. Something has to tell it what sound to play while navigating. Not sure those are modifiable or not.
No, you have it backward. People with disposable income are more likely to have iPhones. But “likely to have more income” does not lead to “have iPhone”.
Some of us have income and sense. 
I’ll bet you do CrossFit, don’t you? 
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Questionable Assumptions Day on the forum apparently…
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brands & cycles has a 20% across the board coupon Prime20 that works on 1050 in case you are after one and looking for a deal
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