FTP versus MAP?

My understanding is what you wrote below: most coaches aim for blocks that are 4–6 weeks long, and that coaches play tetris, i. e. they see what fits. Personally, I like 4-week blocks, but I occasionally do 2 x 3 = 6 week blocks. I cannot speak for anyone else, but I think staying in the rhythm of structured training has more benefit than looking at some metrics.

I’d say that depends on what you/your coach has identified as goals for the season, and whether fractional utilization is important for reaching these goals or a useful metric to quantify progress.

E. g. a multi-year approach where you alternate between raising your VO2max ceiling with e. g. a training plan that focusses on short power and repeatability (think Crit Plan) and a plan that broadens your base (Climbing road race, XCM, etc.) sounds like a good strategy.

You wrote earlier that your FTP-to-MAP ratio varies significantly within a season. I think this is a very astute observation, and shows how much experience you have as an athlete. While that sounds a bit surprising to me as I’d expect this number to change slowly once you are a few years into structured training, we are all individuals and some aspect of us is bound to be out of ordinary. Hence, if that’s the case and it is a concern of yours, then I’d definitely continue keeping track of your MAP/power at VO2max and your FTP. That means you’d have to do a ramp test every now and then, and find some way to measure your FTP (you could use workouts to validate it or some other FTP test protocol).

Before altering your training, I’d probably watch what happens over the course of a season and try to discern any patterns. E. g. my body reacts differently to a polarized base block than a sweet spot base block. Neither block is “bad” or “better”, it just depends on my goals which block suits my goals more. So think about what goals would benefit your riding the most. Some people focus on TTE, but if e. g. you are a crit racer, that’s not a productive goal.

Then you could adapt your training accordingly. If you e. g. want to increase power production, you could alternate between blocks aimed at raising your ceiling and those that increase your fractional utilization or TTE at threshold. Of course, that is assuming this is compatible with your goals for the season or across seasons.

Hi everyone. I am new to this concept. Looking at Intervals.icu, I reached an FTP last season of 310 and a MAP of 360, so that would have met at 86% which I think is solid, right?

But currently, Intervals has me at an FTP of 255 and a MAP of 338 (not sure what they base that on but I just wrapped up a base phase (threw in a few spiky club rides) and am moving into a build next week). Since my MAP is not too far off my best from last season, whereas my FTP is much lower, I am thinking I should be focusing on threshold workouts over VO2max, right? Plus I am planning to start hitting some practice crits next month, with real crits starting end of April, so those efforts should help raise my “ceiling” and focusing on my “floor” seems more important now.

Do I have that right?

So obviously threshold workouts (I am planning over/unders because I am terrible at them) but would workouts like this also be good for “filling the house”: San Cristobal

Thanks for the replies. How would I know which of the two is my limiter? I am not sure I can tell.

If you’re terrible at o/u then it’s probably lactate clearance that you need to work on.

As usual, the correct medicine is rarely sweet.

:blush:

Yeah, I very rarely fail workouts, but when I do, it is usually over/unders. :slight_smile:

Thanks!

Don’t be afraid to start with, say 105/80 intervals. Then progress them to 110/80. Then maybe 105/85 and 110/90.

Some people (me included) find the 105/95 intervals a bit too “tight” to FTP on one or both sides.

Thanks for the tip. I like how you put that: too tight. That is precisely how they feel.

Are you able to find 105/80 and 110/80 on TR? I only see 105/95 ones.

I’d do an over-under workout in the PL 4–5 range and 4 x 10 at threshold, and see how that feels. You can view this as additional validation of your FTP.

I suspect.you’ll need to.build your own set of custom workouts.