Feature Request: Selective Adaptation Acceptance

Thanks for moving this. I did do a little searching to see if the feature request already existed but I guess I overlooked this one.

So another week down and I had another adaptation change for Sweet Spot reducing my next workout but everything else was bumped up. I don’t understand what exactly is being looked at for sweet spot. My RPM, Power, HR, etc all seems good and on par with what the plan is giving me. I have decided to just go with the AI suggestions because I do feel that overall its taking me the right direction. But I am curious what its seeing to suggest the change. My assumption is that maybe my average HR is higher for the workout then it should be. I know @ZackeryWeimer said it should be “Achievable” but I am not real sure what that means when it comes to the specifics of the workout, HR, RPM, TSS, Etc.

Is there any update on the Feature Request? I’m just curious if its being contemplated or not.

Don’t forget that in the podcast introducing AT a couple of years ago Nate made the point that long term progress isn’t linear; if each workout got harder you’d eventually exceed your capabilities, therefore AT sometimes suggests workouts which consolidate gains. He used the analogy of bench press, if you successfully push 200kg you don’t necessarily advance to 220Kg next time, rather, you might do 180kg for a few workouts with increasing numbers of reps to consolidate the gain.

I think it would be good if TrainerRoad could add a tooltip for each proposed change describing the reason for the change, just like you described in the text above. E.g. “The workout is expected to be productive (between 6.3 and 7.2), but the current workout is achievable (5.4)”. Or “The workout duration is expected to be between 90 and 120 minutes, but the current workout duration is 60 minutes.”

With the current functionality, we have to guess why the changes are proposed.

You can do this yourself using Alternates. If you want a harder workout, select a harder one from the alternates - your have options to select time & achievable, productive, etc. to filter the list of workouts like in the screenshot below. This is really the easiest way of changing a specific workout to be harder / easier.

I know but not what I’m getting at. If I select a workout that was too hard but manage to complete it with a few bailouts and absolutely wrecked, my progression level goes up to that respective workout even when a lower one might be more appropriate. Hence reducing that by 0.2 points will be more accurate.

It’s easier to go up than back down because you just select a harder workout but in the case the difference is pretty large, it can help recalibrate a little more quickly. And it’s one less workout to get to the right spot

If you are feeling totally wrecked, are you rating the workout as All Out? If so, and AT is giving you full PL credit, than that feels like an AT bug.

That’s what spurred this request. I just finished junction -5 and I was given full PL credit despite rating it all out and “intensity” for my reason why. This has happened with a few other workouts in the past.

@odpaul7 Workout Levels V2 will improve on this! Our devs are chugging along on that, so stay tuned for more. :wink:

@hpbieker Good idea! Just passed that along to the team. :slight_smile:

Hi

Not sure if this is possible but I’d like to be able to accept some not all of the suggested adaptations.

I’m in a bit of weird phase right now trying to get back into things. I have handled a quick jump in VO2 difficulty level, similar for SS and last night I swapped a THR session for a breakthrough endurance session ok.

Adaptations come up and it downgrades the THR sessions (because I haven’t done the planned ones) but it increases the VO2.

I’d like to be able to accept the VO2 but leave the planned THR ones for example and see how they go if I do them.

I moved your post under the existing feature request with the same suggestion.

Currently it’s an all or nothing issue. We hope TR will add the ability to make selective accept/reject choices in the future.

Does anyone know if there has been any progress on this feature request. It’s kind of frustrating TR keeps trying to change my 4+ hr Z2 ride even though I have the time to do it and I’m not in the red.

Delete the z2 ride and add in the workout you want. TR will continue to adapt any z2 ride that is part of Plan Builder. It was super annoying so I deleted all of my z2 rides in my plans, added the z2 workouts I wanted and copy and pasted them to each week. It’s a nice work around and breaks them from the adaption cycle.

That works! Thanks for the workaround. :+1:

I’m a new trainer road user after after a single ride I have 11 adaptations and immediately would like this feature to be implemented. All I did today was just a recovery ride too and it’s not like I wrecked myself with some crazy workout. A simple 1:30 hour recovery ride is all. I can’t imagine this is the user experience trainer road is going for with a plan that changes this much. I was hoping to get some consistency in a plan. But already pretty big changes are being made as in it is already removing a sweet spot workout for another recovery ride tomorrow. I’m not holding my breathe as this request is already 4 years old so it’s clearly not a priority.

Another vote for ‘selective adaptation acceptance’ please. I’ve currently got 5 adaptations pending and I’d like to reject one but accept the others.

That’s what I did, accepted 5 and replaced the 1 back to the original suggestion. It can be made easier for the user though, and that’s the reason for the request.