Seems pretty cool with the Garmin integration, and a potential Xmas gift to myself
The differences between the 1 and 2 version are not super clear, other than the look, and the fact that the 1 are photochromatic. They do seem to call the 1 the āFlagshipā, although not entirely clear why.
This style is best suited for cyclists, triathletes and runners looking for higher coverage.
I take this to mean better for bright light conditions
Engo 1
ENGO 1 is an ideal alternative for those looking to train in more variable conditions. ENGO 1ās photochromic lens is suitable for a wide spectrum of low light conditions.
Have tried these for a couple of days, and despite still some teething issues, would struggle not to leave with them on rides.
The good:
Not distracting
I can have the infos I care about (power, cadence, heartrate, and have also added speed) at a glance. Rode over 11h on last 2 days, and barely looked at my 1040 (had the map always on, instead of my otherwise āmainā screen displaying mostly the infos I now have on the glasses.
Battery life is fairly good (but probably wonāt last enough for the largest grandfondos (e.g. 10+ hours)
Instructions are mostly good (although they are slightly wrong for setting up edge 1040 (vs watches) - Iāve told them. You need to configure the data field through connect IQ and not garmin connect.
Very readable in rain (rode for 5h in rain today, and display wasnāt affected (had a cap so that water didnāt ingress on the inside), while 1040 notifications were hard to read.
The bad
Still some software issues (all reported in as much detail I could get to them).
Yesterday Glasses would turn off as soon as I got into a slight pause (as in auto-pause triggered on 1040, or would have been, after I turned off the option - no difference in behaviour). Worked super well today.
Battery indicator, and clock seem to appear sort of intermittently. Clock sometimes āfreezes in timeā for up to 10 min.
Focus is set to 3m. You might need lenses to correct, if youād normally need vision correction to that distance. I have 0.75 shortsightedness and 0.75 astigmatism and can read fine, but smaller symbols (as in the drawings that show power / speed are a bit hard to read without lenses, but not enough so that Iāve put lenses on to try.
No turn by turn on garmin (only suunto apparently), at least yet
Features Iād like:
Varia radar display (even if by its own it would likely not be enough, as the display is not distracting at all and you might miss alerts), but would love to just look at the screen when hearing the aural alerts from the garmin.
Customer support is fairly slow to respond (1-3 days, but all my queries were during festive period, so very possibly not representative) - but with fairly detailed and not canned answers.
Iām definitely keeping them, and not seeing myself not leaving with them on for long rides, so positives definitely outweight negatives (unless the pause issue happens again / is not fixed).
Had I had those, I might not even have put so much weight on having hood buttons to control the garmin when choosing groupset/components, given that I barely change screens now.
Specifically, around the nose? Iāve been trying them, and while I agree with all your technical items above (both good and bad), my main issue is that the nose bridge piece isnāt very adjustable, and thus, is actually too small for my nose, so it slides down my nose every few seconds (not kidding). Be it running or riding. Fairly frustrating.
I have no issues cycling (over 6h gravel rides, including cobblestones, when cycling Paris ā Dieppe last 2 days) one of them with rain for 5h), havenāt tried running.
I usually have issues with glasses slipping on nose, and found light oakleys perfect, but these are essentially the same (I tightened a bit the arms, by bending, as recommended)
Edit: Looked for a review from you actually. Maybe a good thing I didnāt, as fit issues might have put me off trying! I also had to ship to France (where spent the holidays) as Iād have expected customs & import charges in the UK, which would have made a return harder. In hindsight, I would have been really sad not to try them!
Iāve also found the opacity pretty good, in what were fairly dark days (rode till sunset). Will have to wait a few weeks for a sunnier place to try with brighter sun.
Interesting thread, didnāt know these existed. I want a product like this to work but have a very bad taste in my mouth from the Recon Jet glasses way back when. They were heavy, the display was hard to read, the battery only lasted a few hours, and worst of all I felt they obstructed my vision. On that last front, even if itās an only a little I want every bit of FOV while riding.
Itās been ~7 years since the Recons so sounds like technology may have finally caught up to address weight and battery, but do you find that you have the same FOV as normal glasses?
I am also very much on the verge of getting the Engo 2, as I do a lot of outdoors workouts. I tend to stare at my computer more often than Froome, and thought this may help.
However I have a Wahoo, so Iād have to pair my sensor through my phone. Does anyone have any experience/feedback on that?
I guess the ādumbā way is to record on the yahoo, and start the phone app.
Slightly annoying because you need to start 2 things.
Then you probably need sensors that can connect to both the wahoo and the phone app at the same time.
And more connections is more things to fail.
I had a go at the app and itās very simple to customise. Didnāt feel like that would be a limitation.
I purchased a pair of Engo smart glasses v.1. They were a disaster. Didnāt fit around the nose and the glasses slipped down whenever I hit a rough patch when riding or whenever I went running. Every time they slipped down, they would disconnect.
When I reported issues, they were extremely slow to respond. Not sure, but they appear to be a French company and a bunch of links to the US support system were never looked at. My first set of messages went unanswered. About a month into owning them and having some interaction with them, they appeared to hire an outside consultant to handle all the tech issues they were having. I sent her a long, detailed email explaining that I loved the idea, but they simply didnāt work. (I love my Form goggles). We had some back and forth, couldnāt resolve the problems, and I sent them back.
Descended (and then climbed back) alpe Dāhuez as weather too poor to ski.
Glasses got quite a bit of snow on the outside, but that doesnāt affect the display.
However, in a long and steep descent, with humidity at 100%, and snow / rain, things tend to fog up. Vision remained good, but the optics for HUD fogged and so I wasnāt able to see much stats towards the end of the descent. I took them off and rode a few hundred meters without them, in the hope to de fog, and that did the trick. Not at 100% as the display wasnāt as clear, but could still read my power/cadence/HR/speed very well, and leave the climbing page on the Garmin (which was hardly readable due to snow/rain).
One thing I really like is that how the display doesnāt distract from the road. However, when you look at the stats, you can still see the road very well (unlike when looking at a bike computer).
I was out for only 2h, so couldnāt test battery performance (which has been very good) in sub-zero temperature.
Iām very happy with the glasses, and would definitely buy new ones immediately if I broke or lost them.