You realize we only see Nate’s interactions with a limited number of his employees through a podcast. Like it or not the podcast is performance art. Plus ever stop to think that Nate is only jabbing people that he may have a friendship with as well. I don’t know Nate but based on other things he has said I seriously doubt he’s calling up his other employees and randomly trash talking them.
I’m also a boss of people and I joke with my staff all the time and will poke fun at myself. I don’t think they are nervously laughing just as I was not when previous bosses did the same to me.
That guy had a way more biased analysis in his video, and it was very apparent he was trying way harder to push his own agenda. Shame the Hambini clip roasting him to bits is gone, and it’s a damn shame I have to see his avatar every time I use intervals.icu
Sure do a reply to set things straight - but after that the guys really should invite Dylan onto the podcast to go over the science that everyone keeps banging on about that we all care about so much.
Who IS this Dylan guy. Is there anything to him other than a 20yr old who puts stuff on youtube? Genuinely curious…if not, no need for trainerroad to address it at all IMO. And if they did, it would be in response to questions their users have coming from all of this…
edit: It looks like he is a coach of some sort? If so…directly calling out and trashing competitors without provocation is pretty unprofessional. One of the issues with taking a 20 yr old seriously lol. Regardless of whether his points are valid or not…he’s squandered any legitimacy in them through childish attacks.
Considering I have people wanting to be on my team by how much fun we have, while still getting the job done and always receiving excellent reviews, I’m gonna keep doing what I’m doing, and it’s all professional.
Wow you need to relax…the only information you have to be basing this off of is the podcast, and it is pretty blatantly obvious that Nate is engaging in good natured friendly trash talking. More importantly…it’s equally obvious his employees feel perfectly comfortable giving it right back to him. In a public setting, on the record no less.
It’s a non issue - I would stop trying to manufacture it into one.
Obviously this doesn’t have anything to do with his coaching acumen, but he’s a multiple-time NUE champion and probably one of the top 10 ultra endurance “gravel” riders in the country. I think he won his first NUE series at like 21. Recent palmares include winning the 2020 Shenandoah 100, and beating Ted King and Jeremiah Bishop in the 2020 Sugar Cane 200. Kind of a wunderkind of the American off-road long-distance scene.
He’s one of the fastest ultra endurance off-road cyclists in the US. He was a CTS coach for a few years, started his YT channel, founded his own business a year ago. He’s won a lot of the big ultra 100 MTB races in the US and I think he now focuses on gravel.
That was an impressive win, I thought it was interesting that he surmised that the race could boil down to a sprint, so he trained his sprint. Paid off.
Looking at all of what’s been said, I actually think this is a great opportunity for TR.
There’s a lot of customer feedback (both positive and negative, but much of it quite useful) in this thread. On one hand, some of the MV/HV programs probably do need looking at, the ongoing reluctance/inability to put together a master’s program is a bit of a miss, IMO, and I get a sense that some program diversification might be a good commercial move.
On the other, it’s clear that the significant majority of their users are apparently happy with the product, there is considerable brand loyalty, and they’ve had a lot of free publicity.
This could actually work out rather well for TR, if it’s handled in the right way.
His race recap videos are pretty great, and he definitely doesn’t come across as some kind of narcissistic assh*le. The 2018 DK200 recap (his first DK) is pretty hilarious and not exactly self-aggrandizing. He ends up in a breakaway with Ted King & Joshua Berry and ends up getting completely shelled off the back.
Hah, ok lets go with this. We ARE basing all of this on assumption.
So - you are attacking and denigrating a person and his work culture without any solid facts to back it up whatsoever. Other than assumption (which, as I said…it’s pretty obvious you’ve arrived at the incorrect assumption…but I digress). So, based on YOUR OWN logic, it would behoove you to stop with the ill-informed personal attacks and comments on work culture.
You’ll no doubt have seen the several other posts above explaining who he is. Maybe if the people so offended by the video understood his style they’d be less offended. Ie. backwards hat guy is him saying something stupid etc.
I don’t really care that he has won lots of races what he does do is deliver the science in a much more concise way than the TR podcast. His videos are very well put together and to the point. I really don’t think it was a trainerroad hit piece to gain subscribers.
“99% of cyclists don’t even own a bike” when you’ve got no real leg to stand on
hopefully you will have better ending than Ellen Degeneres.
