I call my mom everyday… 
Cool story bro.
Cannot do that in lockdown. Misses would kill me. 
This is a good tangent…
I call my parents on my way to work in the morning…they get to talk with their grandkids for a few minutes and we can catch up for 10-15 minutes…
works out great!
That sounds pretty ideal. Good man.
I mentioned this as well…the notes are very detailed and very informative. they even talk about not overcooking yourself. If you can’t read the instructions…??
I love TR and the team, and especially the podcast. However, there are some valid criticisms in the video, even if it is purely promoting his own channel at the expense of another (I didn’t know who DJ was until I saw this thread and now I have viewed his channel…).
I personally, as a 41 year old athlete struggle with the intensity week after week, especially when using the ramp test. I have started validating my FTP with longer efforts outdoors, but I am lucky to be able to cycle outdoors all year.
I think people (and the TR team) get way too excited about their ‘FTP’ number. If you can’t hold anywhere near it for a 30 minute TT, then sorry it is not your FTP. Even if your FTP number is a small percentage overestimated, then you are potentially doing a ton of intervals at Vo2 which I am guessing adds up to the burn out that many are mentioning.
Agreed, although if my father were still around, I doubt I’d be telling him how much carbon fiber costs…
In this house carbon fiber is the cheapest option. Everyone who says different is drunk or dehydrated.
Carbon is pretty much the same as the lead of a pencil… metal is as expensive as a car! I know what you mean.
Is there any value to this thread any more? What is the likelihood that someone will sit down and read ~1400 posts to get a perspective on this topic? It also looks like it’s veered on and off topic a few times…
I’m almost to scared to ask, but what exactly is the topic of this thread?
It’s about a Coach trash talking about their competitors more successful business in an effort to push their own perspectives.
That was at least the beginning. It eventually steered towards polarized versus sweetspot training. The rest is random random rambling.
But also about a coach pointing that training PLAN may have real issues…
but at this point who knows!
I know I am staying
Polo for Pyros.
What is DJ measure of success?
What if he has achieved all the success he is seeking?
I would measure a coach by the success of his athletes. 
DJ also did a video on how bad zwift training plans are. All the zwift users clicked on his video to watch it. Ca-Ching! Now TR, Suffer fest is next. Either he thinks he is a the only one on the planet that is correct, or he is running a business that generates revenue based on how many people watch his videos. “Hmmmm. Lot’s of TR users out there. What can I do to get them to watch my video?” I’m pretty sure he started with the thumbnail graphic and worked his way backwards. And BTW, it wasn’t worth my time to watch. We spend our lives hoping someone will tell us how we can get something for nothing. Just ride!
I’ve often thought that TR is for the more elite athlete or at least people with elite mindsets. And since I don’t pretend to be that person, I make adjustments. The plans are grueling. Some people respond to that, some people don’t. Some people enjoy getting on the bike everyday and gutting themselves, some people don’t. I feel that TR has done a great job with all their options. They’ve said a million times that if you want a tough plan, you need to have spot on nutrition and recovery. And recovery isn’t a day of yard work. I would argue that probably most people with normal lives can’t pull off a MV or HV plan “correctly”. And that’s fine. Don’t do it. And TR isn’t the only thing out there. If you’re just up for some rides to somewhat keep your legs spinning until summer, then get on Rouvy or Zwift.
I had issues last year with the workouts. I seriously questioned how the ramp test came up with my FTP number. I went in and manually lowered my FTP by 15 then later 10 and guess what? It still was a hard workout but I was able to complete them, and my recovery was much faster. I didn’t get elite level gains but my life doesn’t revolve around how fast I can get across a line. I’m a normal person. For all of you complaining about burn out, have you manually lowered your FTP? Reduced volume? Of course not. We all want that high number and bragging rights but then blame TR for pushing us to our limits. There are so many options, so many workouts, so many ways the adjust the software that I’m not sure what else you could ask for.
Their biggest mistake probably is not targeting the audience to have a more packaged solution. There should probably be two versions of TR. Elite level, and “Hey, I just want to get on my bike, perhaps lose a little weight, maybe beat my other slow mates up a hill once in a while.” They set up a program to try to cover EVERYONE but rely on you to make the decision on what your body can handle. Olga isn’t standing over you yelling at you. You don’t get your pudding taken away from you if you opt for a 45-minute workout instead of the scheduled 90. You are 100% in control of everything. How can there be so many comments about burn out and not being able to finish a ride?
I hope that the TR team doesn’t waste any of their time acknowledging some YouTuber who thinks he is an “influencer”. You could make a million plans and people would still have something to say. Head Up TR! You Are Awesome! People will always want to complain!
Marc Andreessen “famously” wrote that “software is eating the world”, and it will continue to do so, and in time will steamroller over nearly everything and everyone…
It is still very early days when it comes to the application of software to the task of training for endurance sports. Over the years and decades to come, inexpensive automated software-based systems to monitor, inform and direct training will improve by multiple orders of magnitude, discovering and applying insights we never imagined, eventually eclipsing all but the very best coaches - and then eventually probably eclipsing even those select few too.
=>Coaches: make hay whilst the sun shines because unless you are operating at the very upper and elite ends of the market, your role will eventually be automated out of existence - cost/benefit-wise you’ll be unable to compete - just as many other legacy roles in society have already been usurped and will be in the future. Not tomorrow, or next year, but probably far sooner than you expect - particularly if you’re really not expecting this to happen at all. 
Per Rudi Dornbusch: “In economics, things take longer to happen than you think they will, and then they happen faster than you thought they could.”.
Whether TR will be one of the outfits at the forefront of these changes to come is yet to be determined - there’s no way of knowing currently - but I am confident that software will completely change the coaching landscape. Bring it on. 
So if you had your choice, you would rather listen to world tour cycling coaches rather than coach Chad?