I like TR for workout creation and planning but I agree with Dylan, the majority of their plans simply have to much intensity.
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5 wpkg on 10 weekly hours is both. In addition to my story there are countless posts on the forum where people post the plans they have completed and what it had earned them.
When I did SSB1MV, SSB2MV, GBMV the distribution was pyramidal
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Ahah! This was my point about the design of the video. His message is clearly that TR SS plans are bad. He then separately says SS is effective but not as effective as Polarised.
This is deliberate, in order to make the clip contentious.
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Pls share, curious to see the distribution. Thanks.
Ditto. TrainerRoad plans plus added Z2 always ends up being pyramidical for me.
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Iād say that the issue at hand is DJās claim that science says polarized is best. Not only is that clearly not the case, it turns out that elite athletes donāt train polarized as Seiler originally claimed anyway.
Basically, Iād say that DJ is just aping others, and doesnāt really understand the state of the science he leans upon to justify his claims.
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If you are spending time putting in hard work when you could be getting better results by going easier, I would say that definitely counts as ābadā.
This is not mutually exclusive from saying that SS can be effective.
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Agreed. Rejecting data just because it wasnāt generated yesterday is a cop-out.
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TR plays the long game.
They may win over a few people now but lose the same amount of people who feel they arenāt getting faster with a half-baked polarized plan.
Xert has some cool features that Iām sure the TR team has already fully dissected. People like Xert but arenāt absolutely raving about it, which suggests that there are major improvements to be had.
Iām glad TR are taking their time.
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Clearly he doesnāt have a job or family.
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Thatās not a trainerroad plan though, thatās something you have created.
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But Mr Old, in this very video the guy references some evidence in favor of PYR, where results are equal or better than POL. Did u even watch the video?
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Thatās not true. I follow the stock TR plans and add some zone two time to the rides as they have suggested countless times.
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Yes he literally cites the article Mr Old just posted at 11:53. It isnāt his contention that PYR is less effective than POL, his contention is that TR overprescribes intensity.
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Thatās great - I have never heard that advice. I was just following what is in the app.
Sucks to be me I guess.
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Fair enough, and I donāt disagree with you.
My point was that heās not making statements just from empirical evidence, but trying to back them up what with data (that is available to him, obviously nothing compared to what TR has). Hence implying that heās ātoo young too knowā, as some people have mentioned, is a weak argument.
Now TrainerRoad should defend their point. They have the data, however it would be a little harder to do a fair comparison even for them, since Iām not aware of them having any polarized plans to compare against.
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I think this is again one of the misrepresentations/assumptions in the video:
All plans should be followed verbatim with no other activity.
This is not what TR sells nor says. The fact that people think theyāre plans should be bought this way is those peopleās problem.
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