I’m interested in understanding others POV / TR’s POV about what plan (if any) is best for this situation. Given:
60-90 minutes available every work day
120 minutes weekends (both days if necessary)
With this schedule, I’ve made a general FTP builder gravel plan, 4 days (recommended) but the plan will very frequently put a hard day on Saturday for 2hrs, then another workout Sunday that ALWAYS becomes a yellow day. I then try and move the workout to Monday but that messes up the Tuesday workout, etc. All of this seems to revolve around the builder strictly following the planned “Tues/Thurs/Sat/Sun” layout, which totally makes sense given thats whats in the plan.
Should I just not use a plan and do AI workouts whenever I can train?
What configuration is recommended for a schedule like this?
Is there a way to instead tell the system availability for given days as opposed to “these are the days I will 100% be training”?
Sorry if this has been asked before, I searched but didn’t see anything entirely like this and its a little different with the advent of the fully AI system.
You can build whatever type of plan you’d like in Plan Builder, but we will suggest on-the-fly changes to your training if we think you’re risking picking up too much fatigue.
This is based on your training history, so if the schedule you’re referencing is more volume than you’re used to, TR is trying to slow your progression a bit and level off that ramp of volume. We think those changes should be made slowly over time to avoid overtraining.
I’d be happy to take a closer look at what you’ve got going on. Let me know if it’s okay to discuss your training details here in this thread.
You’re at liberty to tweak it after it’s come up with its recommendation.
In your case, try telling it you want 6 workouts. Let’s assume Monday is your off day. Then - assuming you have two hard days - drag those to Tuesday and Friday. Set them both to, say, 60 minutes.
Now do something similar with the other four days, moving them wherever you like and setting the durations as appropriate.
100% okay to post any part here! Not sure if I need to make anything public / share to do so but assuming you have internal access yeah go for it! Thanks!
A big part of it will definitely have to do with me suddenly going from zero to 450+ TSS per week, so that I totally get. I’m mostly trying to get a feel for what kind of setting / choices for a plan you would recommend based on availability.
A big part of it will definitely have to do with me suddenly going from zero to 450+ TSS per week, so that I totally get.
That’s the problem.
The default schedule that we recommend in Plan Builder is what we think is best for you to start with. You can then use the check volume tool to see if we’d recommend increases as you adapt to the training load.
You’ll have a tough time getting us to allow you to jump into 450+ TSS weeks coming from zero unless you turn Fatigue Detection off, which I wouldn’t recommend doing.
Do you think you’d be willing to start small and build into a higher training volume over time?
Yeah 100%! I’m generally sticking to the plan, just was curious if there was essentially a way to tell the system “hey i could do more days” and have it add for ex. z2 days in there. As it stands I’m keeping everything turned on and just letting the AI ftp slowly build up. If in the near future I truly feel like I can give it more I’ll probably just manually add z2 on blank days or something.
Manually adding small bits of easy riding is a good way to progress based on how you’re feeling. The check volume tool works well, too.
Just listen to your body after each ride and each week. The signals of fatigue can sometimes be subtle, and overtraining comes more in the form of a slow roasting than a flash frying.
It’s kind of like getting a sunburn – if you wait to get out of the sun until you can feel it, it’s too late.
