Anyone tried this? (HVMN Ketone)

So I’ve seen some people (on YouTube) using this product during longer rides (2+ hours). The claims that I have seen / heard are that on longer duration rides it gives a feeing of high ‘energy’ which clearly (if true) would be great.

I’m not a ‘ketosis’ experienced rider and generally view my fat adaption as being poor. I seem to ride most effectively (In my own experience through trial and error) on any 1.5+ hour rides by steadily consuming simple carbohydrates in both liquid (beta fuel), gel (SiS) and food (banana / flapjack) form. This approach has worked better for me (in my own relatively limited experience) than trying to limit simple carbs in favour of a fat based diet approach.

My question is to those people who have actually used this product and has two aspects:

  • does it actually work to help provide more energy on longer rides? - if so to what degree in our own experience?
  • as someone who on longer rides currently mostly relies on carbs, am I likely to experience any appreciable benefit?

I’m thinking of buying some and testing it out on my next 100k+ ride but it seems ruinously expensive so I don’t want to pay for something if the probability is high that it won’t provide any appreciable benefit (yes I am a cheapskate) :laughing:

Thanks in advance
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Tested it in a 100k MTB race. Ingested one ampule of exogenous ketones, one-half hour prior to the start. The goal was to delay consumption of calories until after the first hour, then bidons with 270cal/hour, gels PRN. Made it to 45 minutes before taking calories. When the dust cleared, I had consumed one fewer bottle and only half of the six gels that I carried. No gain, no drop in energy.
Some have experienced a keto high. Some have barfed from the taste. Probably not too calming for the stomach, but not terrible.
Next experiment will be trying a second ampule at the midpoint. It’s promising!

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My friend absolutely swears by it. He claims I’d give him an energy and focus he hasn’t had before when he has it late into a long ride.
He said it is hard to explain the feeling but advises me to get some.

No chance at that price point though. I’m not at the level to spend that kind of money.

Those are ketone esters. You could start with a cheaper (possibly less effective) route and try ketone salts. There are plenty out there now. 3 or 4 years ago there weren’t many, and they tasted absolutely horrible. Much better taste now. I like the brand Perfect Keto Base chocolate flavor. You can get it on Amazon. Still spendy, but not $30/serving spendy

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Thanks guys !

I did a review on it for TriSwimCoach that you may want to check out:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&ved=2ahUKEwjL_eDy1s7lAhUGMuwKHQNwDfsQFjAEegQIABAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.triswimcoach.com%2Fthe-hvmn-ketone-triathlete-project%2F&usg=AOvVaw3RIiKhNQvA2mwcmlpwpicM

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Great - that’s for that :+1::+1:

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I tried them on a century ride. Took a bottle around mile 60. No burst of energy. What I did experience about a 1/2 hour after taking them was an increased focus. It allowed me to “suffer” more/longer. When I needed to bridge up to a group it felt like I could focus on what I needed to do to close the gap. It didn’t give me more energy just seemed to help better direct what I had which allowed me to ride faster.

Not something I can afford to use on a regular basis but I plan to try it again at the start of a long ride rather than half-way through a ride.

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My premise was: consuming exogenous ketones helps preserve muscle glycogen. I’m really excited to try adding the second mid-race dose after hearing your story!

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