Following up from my post above, I also created a 12-week base-only plan for Oct-Dec. Both the App and PBV2 (web) selected General Base I-III (good that they produce the same plan). However, I want to do Traditional Base while focusing on lower body strength (weights) Oct-Dec. I could change from General Base to Traditional Base using the App but couldnāt find a similar option on PBV2 (web).
If the ability to change plans doesnāt exist yet on PBV2, highly recommend adding it to the development timeline. (As a note, I plan to do General Base Jan-Mar, then Build and Specialty, so I am following TRās recommendation, just not right now. )
I want to increase my fitness, mostly targeting climbing for 30-90 minutes efforts (not for a race setting, but just go fast up hills solo or in group rides). If I pick the āImprove Climbingā option, it gets the Rolling Road Race speciality for the last part of the plan, with 1 anaerobic, 2 vo2max and 2 endurance workouts)
If I pick āIncreasing FTPā, it gets the Gran Fondo speciality, which seems to be a better fit for what I am trying to achieve. The base/build phases seems to be more or less the same for both options.
Is there any more information about what type of climbing āImprove Climbingā is primarily targeting? And would the āIncreasing FTPā plan be better for longer climbs in non-race settings?
Apologies if I missed it, but after reviewing this thread and the FAQ for these new plans, I have a question for the TR team (or anyone else that can answer).
I was persuaded by Nateās recent AACC podcast focused on the real world data of Masterās athletes on the TR platform - and I really embraced the Masters option for training plans.
What Iām picking up here is that Masters plan going forward is simply about the user selecting only two high intensity days per week. Fine - if true.
But as TR continues to chase the vision of totally personalized training plans - doesnāt it stand to reason that the fact that Iām a Masters athlete should factor into the algorithm somehow and the corresponding recommendations? (Of course, thatās assuming I say āyesā to being coded as a Masters athlete).
I need help with choosing the best focus for the plan. Iāve created a few different plans to see what the differences are. I am generally between 1) climbing, 2) raising FTP and 3) getting faster for group rides. Of these plans, it seems like climbing and getting faster for group rides are somewhat similar. They both have a much higher focus on VO2 max and Anaerobic intervals vs. raising FTP which is mostly threshold and sweet spot it seems.
Iād also note that the climbing focus seems like it has much less threshold and sweet spot work than the older climbing focus plan had (I followed that one last winter).
Any thoughts on this would be helpful. Iād assume sweet spot and threshold would be pretty important for climbing vs. heavy VO2 workā¦unless weāre talking about short climbs vs. long sustained mountain climbsā¦
I apologize if this has been answered - I tried reading through, but itās a long thread already!
Iām not currently a user (have been in the past), and Iām wondering when it ingests all my data how it will determine my tss if I donāt have HR or power on a lot of my rides. I keep track of my TSS/CTL in intervals.icu by approximating my tss on rides when I donāt use a powermeter, so I have a good idea how much load Iām carrying.
My concern is that it wonāt factor in my weekly load very well, and suggest a plan with too little load.
The Rolling Road Race is best for the most common climbing scenarios (shorter climbs). 30-90min climbs are a relative rarity. I guess in your case, you could see which of the two meets your needs better.
If your climbing involves long, sustained climbs, the Gran Fondo plan would likely be more beneficial. But if your climbs are short and punchy, with more variability, the Rolling Road Race plan would be better.
The Rolling Road Race targets:
Rolling roads make for highly variable races and rides, with repeated all-out attacks testing your fitness over punchy climbs. Sustained power and endurance are serious assets on this terrain, but the ability to respond to frequent surges and changes in pace is equally important. And in the end, success on rolling parcours demands a strong sprint, too.
The Rolling Road Race specialty plans are designed to address this diverse skillset, fine-tuning your sprint and anaerobic power, improving power and time at VO2 max, and maintaining your aerobic endurance.
The Gran Fondo targets:
For athletes who are targeting long gravel races, gran fondos, or spirited multi-hour group rides, the Gran Fondo plans are the ideal choice. These specialty blocks primarily focus on muscular endurance, equipping you to pedal powerfully for hours on end over widely-varied terrain. But they also include some higher-intensity VO2 max efforts, so youāll have the fitness you need to stay at the front when the pace rises.
@Nate_Pearson@ming Iām excited to take advantage of this new functionality! looks great. However, I am really most interested in Full and Half IM Triathlon plans. I know the release mentioned they are not ready but was curious where they may be in the product roadmap. Not looking for dates etc. more of a high level:
Will be added sometime, About to start on that, Actively working on that, Soon to be internally tested level of information. It would be great if they are available for 2025 season!
With the new custom plans how do we change from Gran Fondo to Rolling Road Race? Or do we need to rebuild the plan for that to happen?
I think the question that has been asked a few times is how our choices during the plan builder selection effects the build/speciality phase. If we want to use the plan builder for time/day options but have a specific build/speciality we want to follow what do we do?
I dont think you can select them specifically. But at least for me when I select āImprove Climbingā I will get the Rolling Road Race discipline. If I select āIncreasing FTPā I get the Gran Fondo discipline. I think you need to edit the plan and change between those.
Base and build seems to be the same for those two options.
You can see what discipline it gives you on the career main page:
No - but there could be some sort of guide for when what is selected. Granted I know this is going to be a small number of users that wants to see this, but it would be nice.
Yep - just wondering how its determined without going back and editing it over and over.
Will the plans increase time (volume) over time or will they remain static unless I change it?
Will it recognize if I do longer rides than planned and adapt my times? Or, if I do longer rides and manually edit lengths of the workouts in the plan builder, will it recognize that or give me a warning?
I havenāt really trained in 4 months and my volume has been low, I know I can handle a certain amount of stress once I get back into the groove, slowly.
Hey @OreoCookie! Thanks for bringing this up- we really appreciate it. Thatās definitely confusing behaviour. This should be fixed now. Let us know if there is anything else!
I donāt know that this is new behavior, but when you edit a plan after starting, such as changing the schedule of days or length of time on a given day, even though the start date of the plan remains the same, the purple plan start indicator box moves to the day you edited the plan. Seems to me like that should stay on the plan start date regardless of if you make changes to the schedule.
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