Using the new PB, what settings do I need to tweak to get more base? I was playing around with my plan and deleted it, but now canāt get back to what I had before. Ideally Iād like 12 weeks of base (Masterās General Base I-III), 8 weeks of build, and 4 weeks of specialty. All of my attempts are giving me 8-8-8, instead of 12-8-4.
Yes, I could drop individual training plans on my calendar but there does not appear to be a way to customize the training days, and durations beyond the pre-established ones. Thanks!!
PBV2 has only been released to the web, while it is in Beta. You shoud be able to edit your Training Plan (customise training days and durations) from the website though?
Head to the start date of your Training Plan and click on the annotation. That should pull up the option to Edit or Delete your Training Plan. Let me know if you are having any trouble with that!
Hi there, currently on a low volume masters plan. Saturdays and sundays for me are always unstructured MTB trail rides or solo road spins. So I do all my Trainerroad stuff monday to friday. Is it worth changing my existing plan which is working really well for me?
So I am currently allocated 6 hours total across 5 workouts under the āGeneral Fitnessā plan set to āBalancedā and 7 months.
Few questions on this for any TR support peeps on the thread.
Is this plan the āRolling Road Raceā plan under a different name?
Is the plan capped at 6 hours for the duration of the 7 months? Adaptions will never impact volume? There was a chat about a monthly check-in, does this only impact AIFTP / PL?
I am allocated a 1.5 hour threshold workout on the saturday (93tss) if I swap out for a group ride anything above 1.5 hours will trigger a warning. In the real world a group ride would always be 3 hours min and about 160 tss for me (wouldnāt regard them as hard). I know I can just ignore the warning and swap out the workout but is AI / ML saying I should just match the TSS on my group ride? (which would mean I need to turn around @45 mins and go home before I get a turn on the front potentially :).
My plan initially had 60 min workouts which were adapted to 75 mins which led me to believe volume was adapting but possibly only to maximum the plan allows.
I regularly do long rides at the weekend which makes me wonder about the 90 min workouts I have been allocated at the weekend and the ability to increase time over the 7 month plan.
Iām really digging this new feature. Kudos to the TrainerRoad team!
The custom training plan Iām doing is General Fitness ā Road ā Building Endurance (3 months). I found that the AT adjustments after completion of a successful workout results in the next recommended workout to be a much lower PL increase than in the past. For example, when I successfully complete a Sweet Spot workout (rated Moderate or Hard), the next workout seems to always be 0.2 higher. In the past, AT would usually recommend the next workout to be around 0.5 higher. Is this the result of my Building Endurance goal? In other words, does Building Endurance intentionally progress your PLs slower than the other goals, such as Increasing FTP for example?
Adjusting my training approach from Balanced to Demanding doesnāt seem to impact this.
To be clear - I have no issue with slower PL progressions as I have the agency to swap in a harder workout if I so desire ;). Just curious!
Following up from my post above, I also created a 12-week base-only plan for Oct-Dec. Both the App and PBV2 (web) selected General Base I-III (good that they produce the same plan). However, I want to do Traditional Base while focusing on lower body strength (weights) Oct-Dec. I could change from General Base to Traditional Base using the App but couldnāt find a similar option on PBV2 (web).
If the ability to change plans doesnāt exist yet on PBV2, highly recommend adding it to the development timeline. (As a note, I plan to do General Base Jan-Mar, then Build and Specialty, so I am following TRās recommendation, just not right now. )
I want to increase my fitness, mostly targeting climbing for 30-90 minutes efforts (not for a race setting, but just go fast up hills solo or in group rides). If I pick the āImprove Climbingā option, it gets the Rolling Road Race speciality for the last part of the plan, with 1 anaerobic, 2 vo2max and 2 endurance workouts)
If I pick āIncreasing FTPā, it gets the Gran Fondo speciality, which seems to be a better fit for what I am trying to achieve. The base/build phases seems to be more or less the same for both options.
Is there any more information about what type of climbing āImprove Climbingā is primarily targeting? And would the āIncreasing FTPā plan be better for longer climbs in non-race settings?
Apologies if I missed it, but after reviewing this thread and the FAQ for these new plans, I have a question for the TR team (or anyone else that can answer).
I was persuaded by Nateās recent AACC podcast focused on the real world data of Masterās athletes on the TR platform - and I really embraced the Masters option for training plans.
What Iām picking up here is that Masters plan going forward is simply about the user selecting only two high intensity days per week. Fine - if true.
But as TR continues to chase the vision of totally personalized training plans - doesnāt it stand to reason that the fact that Iām a Masters athlete should factor into the algorithm somehow and the corresponding recommendations? (Of course, thatās assuming I say āyesā to being coded as a Masters athlete).
I need help with choosing the best focus for the plan. Iāve created a few different plans to see what the differences are. I am generally between 1) climbing, 2) raising FTP and 3) getting faster for group rides. Of these plans, it seems like climbing and getting faster for group rides are somewhat similar. They both have a much higher focus on VO2 max and Anaerobic intervals vs. raising FTP which is mostly threshold and sweet spot it seems.
Iād also note that the climbing focus seems like it has much less threshold and sweet spot work than the older climbing focus plan had (I followed that one last winter).
Any thoughts on this would be helpful. Iād assume sweet spot and threshold would be pretty important for climbing vs. heavy VO2 workā¦unless weāre talking about short climbs vs. long sustained mountain climbsā¦
I apologize if this has been answered - I tried reading through, but itās a long thread already!
Iām not currently a user (have been in the past), and Iām wondering when it ingests all my data how it will determine my tss if I donāt have HR or power on a lot of my rides. I keep track of my TSS/CTL in intervals.icu by approximating my tss on rides when I donāt use a powermeter, so I have a good idea how much load Iām carrying.
My concern is that it wonāt factor in my weekly load very well, and suggest a plan with too little load.
The Rolling Road Race is best for the most common climbing scenarios (shorter climbs). 30-90min climbs are a relative rarity. I guess in your case, you could see which of the two meets your needs better.
If your climbing involves long, sustained climbs, the Gran Fondo plan would likely be more beneficial. But if your climbs are short and punchy, with more variability, the Rolling Road Race plan would be better.
The Rolling Road Race targets:
Rolling roads make for highly variable races and rides, with repeated all-out attacks testing your fitness over punchy climbs. Sustained power and endurance are serious assets on this terrain, but the ability to respond to frequent surges and changes in pace is equally important. And in the end, success on rolling parcours demands a strong sprint, too.
The Rolling Road Race specialty plans are designed to address this diverse skillset, fine-tuning your sprint and anaerobic power, improving power and time at VO2 max, and maintaining your aerobic endurance.
The Gran Fondo targets:
For athletes who are targeting long gravel races, gran fondos, or spirited multi-hour group rides, the Gran Fondo plans are the ideal choice. These specialty blocks primarily focus on muscular endurance, equipping you to pedal powerfully for hours on end over widely-varied terrain. But they also include some higher-intensity VO2 max efforts, so youāll have the fitness you need to stay at the front when the pace rises.
@Nate_Pearson@ming Iām excited to take advantage of this new functionality! looks great. However, I am really most interested in Full and Half IM Triathlon plans. I know the release mentioned they are not ready but was curious where they may be in the product roadmap. Not looking for dates etc. more of a high level:
Will be added sometime, About to start on that, Actively working on that, Soon to be internally tested level of information. It would be great if they are available for 2025 season!
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