🎉🎉🎉 Announcement: Personalized Custom Training Plans! 🎉🎉🎉

I don’t know if this constitutes as a bug, but when generating my plan with my A race on a Wednesday, the rest of that week is empty and I get a full recovery week the next week.

@Torneng, this is not intended, and the team is working on a fix.

You can listen to your body and choose workouts from TrainNow after your A Event, or you feel rested enough to end your recovery week early.

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Thanks @Nate_Pearson for the reply. I sort of assumed that would be the case but thanks for confirming it.

The easy customisation of plans for days and hours has got me wondering about the best use of time. LV used to be 60 to 90 minutes 3 days a week which was manageable and left 2 days for adult stuff like studying, chores and other non-fun stuff. Now that we can customise the days and lengths, I was thinking about the best use of time.

  • 5 days of 45 mins leaves good time after for food and stuff.
    Or
  • 3 days of 75 mins leaving two full evenings free.

Clearly, if you could do longer and more often you’d improve even more but sadly there’s finite hours in the week. Plus I want to leave weekends free for the fun rides that training enables. Both, at the figures assumed, are the same total just different approaches.

My times were just an example, main point is more shorter workouts or fewer long ones to make best use of time.

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Using the new PB, what settings do I need to tweak to get more base? I was playing around with my plan and deleted it, but now can’t get back to what I had before. Ideally I’d like 12 weeks of base (Master’s General Base I-III), 8 weeks of build, and 4 weeks of specialty. All of my attempts are giving me 8-8-8, instead of 12-8-4.

Yes, I could drop individual training plans on my calendar but there does not appear to be a way to customize the training days, and durations beyond the pre-established ones. Thanks!!

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Fixed … used the App. On the other hand, you’d think that both the web and app should create the same plan. :person_shrugging:

General questions on duration:

  • why is duration limited to 10 months? Especially if my goal is general fitness, why can’t I choose a longer duration?
  • UI / UX: it seems weird to show 1, 2, 3 months, and then “other”, instead of using a number selector like this:

What options did you select to get the 12, 8, 4? I’m on a 8, 8, 8 and would also prefer the 12, 8, 4.

PBV2 has only been released to the web, while it is in Beta. You shoud be able to edit your Training Plan (customise training days and durations) from the website though?

Head to the start date of your Training Plan and click on the annotation. That should pull up the option to Edit or Delete your Training Plan. Let me know if you are having any trouble with that!

Using Plan Builder on the mobile App, I selected “beginner” experience. This option defaults to more base and less specialized.

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Ahhh. I didn’t realize the new plan builder wasn’t on mobile.

Hi there, currently on a low volume masters plan. Saturdays and sundays for me are always unstructured MTB trail rides or solo road spins. So I do all my Trainerroad stuff monday to friday. Is it worth changing my existing plan which is working really well for me?

So I am currently allocated 6 hours total across 5 workouts under the “General Fitness” plan set to “Balanced” and 7 months.

Few questions on this for any TR support peeps on the thread.

  1. Is this plan the “Rolling Road Race” plan under a different name?
  2. Is the plan capped at 6 hours for the duration of the 7 months? Adaptions will never impact volume? There was a chat about a monthly check-in, does this only impact AIFTP / PL?
  3. I am allocated a 1.5 hour threshold workout on the saturday (93tss) if I swap out for a group ride anything above 1.5 hours will trigger a warning. In the real world a group ride would always be 3 hours min and about 160 tss for me (wouldn’t regard them as hard). I know I can just ignore the warning and swap out the workout but is AI / ML saying I should just match the TSS on my group ride? (which would mean I need to turn around @45 mins and go home before I get a turn on the front potentially :).

My plan initially had 60 min workouts which were adapted to 75 mins which led me to believe volume was adapting but possibly only to maximum the plan allows.

I regularly do long rides at the weekend which makes me wonder about the 90 min workouts I have been allocated at the weekend and the ability to increase time over the 7 month plan.

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I’m really digging this new feature. Kudos to the TrainerRoad team!

The custom training plan I’m doing is General Fitness → Road → Building Endurance (3 months). I found that the AT adjustments after completion of a successful workout results in the next recommended workout to be a much lower PL increase than in the past. For example, when I successfully complete a Sweet Spot workout (rated Moderate or Hard), the next workout seems to always be 0.2 higher. In the past, AT would usually recommend the next workout to be around 0.5 higher. Is this the result of my Building Endurance goal? In other words, does Building Endurance intentionally progress your PLs slower than the other goals, such as Increasing FTP for example?

Adjusting my training approach from Balanced to Demanding doesn’t seem to impact this.

To be clear - I have no issue with slower PL progressions as I have the agency to swap in a harder workout if I so desire ;). Just curious!

Began looking at this today. I can now change my plan date without having to delete the previous one. Very cool and much needed wow

@SarahLaverty, @Caro.Gomez-Villafane, @nick does PBV2 allow you to change the specific plan from, say, General Base to Traditional Base? If so, how?

Following up from my post above, I also created a 12-week base-only plan for Oct-Dec. Both the App and PBV2 (web) selected General Base I-III (good that they produce the same plan). However, I want to do Traditional Base while focusing on lower body strength (weights) Oct-Dec. I could change from General Base to Traditional Base using the App but couldn’t find a similar option on PBV2 (web).

If the ability to change plans doesn’t exist yet on PBV2, highly recommend adding it to the development timeline. (As a note, I plan to do General Base Jan-Mar, then Build and Specialty, so I am following TR’s recommendation, just not right now. :wink:)

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I want to increase my fitness, mostly targeting climbing for 30-90 minutes efforts (not for a race setting, but just go fast up hills solo or in group rides). If I pick the “Improve Climbing” option, it gets the Rolling Road Race speciality for the last part of the plan, with 1 anaerobic, 2 vo2max and 2 endurance workouts)

If I pick “Increasing FTP”, it gets the Gran Fondo speciality, which seems to be a better fit for what I am trying to achieve. The base/build phases seems to be more or less the same for both options.

Is there any more information about what type of climbing “Improve Climbing” is primarily targeting? And would the “Increasing FTP” plan be better for longer climbs in non-race settings?

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Apologies if I missed it, but after reviewing this thread and the FAQ for these new plans, I have a question for the TR team (or anyone else that can answer).

I was persuaded by Nate’s recent AACC podcast focused on the real world data of Master’s athletes on the TR platform - and I really embraced the Masters option for training plans.

What I’m picking up here is that Masters plan going forward is simply about the user selecting only two high intensity days per week. Fine - if true.

But as TR continues to chase the vision of totally personalized training plans - doesn’t it stand to reason that the fact that I’m a Masters athlete should factor into the algorithm somehow and the corresponding recommendations? (Of course, that’s assuming I say “yes” to being coded as a Masters athlete).

I need help with choosing the best focus for the plan. I’ve created a few different plans to see what the differences are. I am generally between 1) climbing, 2) raising FTP and 3) getting faster for group rides. Of these plans, it seems like climbing and getting faster for group rides are somewhat similar. They both have a much higher focus on VO2 max and Anaerobic intervals vs. raising FTP which is mostly threshold and sweet spot it seems.

I’d also note that the climbing focus seems like it has much less threshold and sweet spot work than the older climbing focus plan had (I followed that one last winter).

Any thoughts on this would be helpful. I’d assume sweet spot and threshold would be pretty important for climbing vs. heavy VO2 work…unless we’re talking about short climbs vs. long sustained mountain climbs…

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Agree this would be really helpful. Maybe a blog post outlining the rough training approach for each focus?

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