AI FTP prediction change when selecting alternative workout

So I have planned my month out using the AI, it planned a level 1 threshold ride for tomorrow (currently at Level 4) and a FTP prediction of 293(currently 278). Now i have another threshold ride the following day and thought I would select an alternative workout for tomorrow that is a little bit harder. I chose one from the list that was a level 2.7.

The predictor dropped my FTP predictor to 284 even though I am doing a harder workout.

This isn’t the first time, it seems that when i chose an alternative workout from the AI prescribed workout, the FTP gets lower. It seems to punish me for not using the AI when the workouts i selected maybe different because I didn’t like the one it gave me.

Any help would be appreciated as I do like the AI coach but this is frustrating.

Looks to me like the AI is just doing what it’s supposed to do. If it schedules a relatively easy workout, it will want you to recover before going further. It should be well known by now that one can not just always push harder, despite what Daft Punk said.

If you cannot recover properly, it will effect future performance and likely also the (FTP) progression you’ll achieve. Best not try to gamify the prediction but just trust the process. As long as the number goes up, you are very likely doing the right thing. If anything, consider adding or extending endurance ride to push further and see if it benefits your prediction.

Yeah. I figure it chooses what it thinks optimal for achieving the goal with the constraints I specify. If I then do something different, harder or easier, that’s not optimal in the context of the plan so it decreases the FTP prediction.

Hey @Weemanasorous :slight_smile:

Sounds like you’re not following a plan and applying things manually, correct? This is oK! Just wondering if applying a plan may be better.

As @martenk mentioned, doing more doesn’t always means more gains. There is a fine balance between training and recovery to gained fitness. The nice things about the AI Training Sim window is that you can play around with your workouts to see the predicted FTP! So you’ll see that sometimes completing a harder workout brings FTP gains and others it doesn’t. The system is not penalizing you for not completing the workouts it prescribed you (especially if you’re creating your own thing, haha), it just runs hundreds of simulations to determined that best workout for you that day, and if you choose something different it runs the simulations for the outcome of completing that workout.

Thanks Caro,

however it also happens if I select an alternative workout but the same intensity level.

I choose the alternative because if I do an hour of threshold intervals then the AI tries to give me the same workout each time. Sometimes the workout fits and other times it doesn’t because of the area I am riding.

Is there a spot to tell the AI to not give me this workout (insert name of workout) ever and add it to a ‘banned’ list…kind of the opposite of pinning a workout.