I have a related issue - so far, I’ve done most of my training on Favero Assiomas or a Kickr, which give very similar readings. Now I’m starting to train on my CX bike with a Cinch PM that reads 10+ W lower than the the other two. However, since I just started a new plan (CX specialty) and had an ~8% FTP decrease, I’m crushing workouts on the Assiomas/Kickr and super-crushing them (after accounting for readout differences) on the Cinch.
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Thanks again - went back and added a workout and got the association options. Didn’t change my PL though after all that depsite rating a breakthrough as easy.
The whole mess with outdoor workouts is still making AT totally useless for me sadly. Maybe it will be of more value over winter indoors…
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Firstly: if I associate an outside ride with a workout which has a Level higher than my own PL in that energy system, then my PL increases. So if that’s not happening in your case then I would email support to investigate.
Having said that, & Secondly: if your outside ride is an unstructured ride (as opposed to a structured workout that you’re performing outside) then I actually see little point in associating that with a workout just to see your PL increase…
Why? Because by doing this you (we!) are simply guessing (a relatively informed guess/estimation, granted, but a guess nonetheless) at the Level of our ride. It will raise our PL(s) - your current issue aside! - but because the Level was guessed at that means that any subsequent workout that AT prescribes for us in that energy system will, in terms of its Level, also be a guess. Major scope for GIGO.
We may as well “cut out the middleman” - skip the association of an unstructured ride with a structured workout - and the next time that we’re due to do a workout in that energy system just choose one manually based upon our own estimation of what we’ll be able to achieve. Just as we’ve always done with TR when we’ve decided that the difficulty of a scheduled workout in our plan doesn’t actually meet our needs (whether too hard or too easy).
This stop-gap functionality that TR introduced allowing us to associate an outside ride with a workout is (primarily) geared towards obtaining appropriate PL credit for structured workouts performed outside, which previously wasn’t always (or often!) occurring due some well documented issues in that area (Wahoo, Strava, compliance assessments being too strict, etc).
In order to obtain measured, “accurate” credit for unstructured outside rides, we’ll all have to wait for TR to complete and then roll out the future update that’s specifically focused on this area. The stuff that Nate’s talked about being in development…
I realise that some people, for reasons of “completeness” - almost as a book-keeping exercise - may wish for their PL profile to fully represent all of their on-bike work, but until that new feature above appears - which may be some time! - I see little point in using a technique (->that of associating unstructured outside rides with structured workouts) that essentially turns some of your PLs into a bunch of guesses. 
I think this is particularly the case for those of us who are currently doing all of our riding (or all of our riding that touches some specific energy systems) outside in an unstructured manner. For example, Endurance type rides for me. It makes more sense for me to just accept that my PL for this energy system is not representative of my actual ability rather than “force” my PL upward to a guessed-at-Level via the association workaround, just so that my ego can be reassured that my Endurance PL isn’t actually a 1.8 
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This happened to me yesterday too. I played around for a while associating with the outdoor version marked complete or not and the indoor version, and I did get the PL change I expected once I associated the indoor version. But I swear when I associated some older endurance rides just to see how it worked I had to use the outdoor version marked complete. But at that point I was just playing around and didn’t expect PLs or anything to change so I wasn’t paying careful attention.
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Yes I did that today. I’d Ericsson+2 planned (well pushed back from yesterday) so rode out to a nearby town whilst doing that which took just over 90mins. Stopped and saved that activity, had a coffee 
then started up the Garmin again and rode home. When I got home I clicked on today in the Calendar and added a workout (with an outdoor option) that sort of matched that ride. (Actually quite hard to do as the first twenty minutes was a climb of up to 20%! then a long descent and undulating until another climb to get home) With that in place I clicked on my return ride and associated it with the newly added workout.
Gave me some adaptations as well 
I think thats it - needs to be an indoor workout, which is fine. Just managed to bodge the association and get a PL jump.
Probably more relevant when doing tempo and SST outdoor rides and my occasional hill-smash vo2 work.
I’m not confident we will ever see an effective analysis of unstructured outdoor rides in the near future, but hopefully something useful will come from it for indoor riding.
FWIW in my own testing of this - and I’ve tested this again just now - it makes no difference whether my outside (unstructured) ride is associated with an Inside workout or an Outside workout, or even whether my survey response was “I did not pass”: so long as an association is made between my ride and a workout I receive the PL credit.
AT won’t work on the referral code trial correct? Like I signed up for AT a while ago, and got the invitation. Just signed up with a referral code because I’d like to try it before spending any money. But when I click the link for AT, it gives me an error and says it’s invalid. Do I have to pay for a month before AT will work? I’d rather try things out for a bit before spending money, especially with AT.
If your decision whether or not to pay for TR depends on AT working, then you don’t want to pay for TR. There’s a reason it is still in closed beta.
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I really just want to know if that’s the reason I’m getting an error trying to enable AT. But also, I’m not going to pay for a month just to try AT. But if I was able to use AT for a month and liked it, I’d probably stick around. Seems like the trial should be for trying things out since I got the invitation to join AT.
Shoot support an email. They’re usually pretty quick to respond.
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Maybe I didn’t get my point across or I wasn’t blunt enough, but IMHO AT is still buggy and incomplete enough that it is at least as likely to scare people away from TR, than to bring them in. I assume TR itself feels the same…hence the closed beta.
So if you feel TR isn’t worth it now, AT won’t change that until they get it more flushed out.
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So I was added to AT awhile ago. Played around with the UI and created a plan which filled my Trainer Road calendar. I never intended on following that plan (I have a coach) now and asked support to remove me from AT so others who want it could take that spot.
Since then, my dashboard has all of my levels at 1.0 (despite doing 14-16hrs/week none of which are TR workouts). But then today I see my levels have varying numbers. Something has changed. Non TR workouts are now counting?
Odd, VO2Max is my highest at 4.8 yet I haven’t done a VO2max efforts in months.
Just thought I’d report this. I hope this is the right thread.
Still true to SNP approach though? 
Cheers Dave!
You can check if AT is enabled on the web by going to Account → Adaptive Training. It sounds like it is no longer disabled for you.
Good idea.
Ok, I see I am disabled
AI is so mysterious. Hard to say if it is worth asking support about it.
If I build a plan based on a single A event, and then go back and add a few more B events in the lead up to that A even, Will Adaptive training automatically readjust the plan to account for those B events?
Has there been any comment from TR about the decision to display people’s real name (vs. username) on the new (AT) Career page? @IvyAudrain?
I ask simply because it’s a change in behaviour from the old one. Clearly, we can all make our accounts Private so that other users cannot see our Career page, and hence our real name, but this change in behaviour may possibly catch some people out, “leaking” their name before they realise the change has occurred…
Providing the scope for people’s names to be revealed, without simultaneously defaulting people’s accounts to Private, seems a bit “cavalier”.
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EDIT:
I believe if you’re in AT, full name may be visible. Looking into this now!
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