systems would not allow me to register for AT with the email associated with that account so the instructions were not followable.
Keep the PM you’re recording from consistent. I never record the power data off my Tacx because it’s going to be different from my pedals and I obviously record power data outside off the pedals.
Great in theory, but not everyone uses the same bike inside and outside. Some of us have multiple bikes, with different power meters (and/or smart trainers & PM’s) that are all likely to read a bit different. So, dealing with the inevitable variations is something that TR ignores vs some other apps that have ways to handle different PM’s.
Some apps even deal with inside / outside “FTP” differences which is a different, but similar problem even if you happen to use the same exact PM in both locations. Moral of the story is that it is far from simple or matched for some users. It’s a problem that is likely to grow in count as more people adopt more PM’s across multiple bikes and uses.
Some power meters allow you to adjust their output by a certain % (assioma has this), and I think something like this will be a requirement for future PM purchases for me. This allows at least some adjustment to bring it in line with my other power meters/smart trainer. This won’t get things to match in all cases, but will likely enable me to get ‘close enough’ in the power ranges that matter.
Another trick you can play with power meter pedals is to lie about the crank length, as this will manipulate how the force*cadence is translated into power. Garmin headunits give you much more control over this than Wahoo.
I was just added to the beta version. Will the outside workouts get counted in sometime? Because right now without that, the adaptive training thing is pretty useless for me.
Just got into the beta. I noticed that non TR indoor rides have an impact on AT. Are they considered as being different from outside workouts?
It is great that unstructured outside rides now count towards PLs via association with outside workouts but does anyone have any idea how to out this into action for longer rides @IvyAudrain ??
Mu weekend rides are between 4 and 8 hours long and between 230 and 500 TSS. There are no (??) TR workouts with outside options that approximate these times and TSS volumes. Disaster would actually be perfect for a four hour spin but has no outside alternative and no Pls attached. Is it possible to associate an outside ride with two or more TR workouts?
Thanks for any ideas offered.
can somebody point me to the instructions on how to associate an outdoor ride with a workout please? I’ve looked all over the place and cant find any option to do this anywhere on the webpage. Is it done in the app or something?
I did a 4hr endurance ride and would like to associate it with something in TR.
Thanks
For anyone interested in Swim and Run adaptations, support have clarified that AT only responds to these sessions when they are missed. So when I caught up my calendar. That’s why the adaptations disappeared.
Why the adaptations where so weird, they didn’t have an answer for 
Dedication to your tribe! You should have some time to yourself == especially on the bike @mcneese.chad 
thanks - but I cant see that at all? When I click on an activity in the calendar it just opens the detail of the activity itself and I never see that dialogue box at all…
Only thing I can think of is that my activities are imported from Strava rather than my Wahoo. Does that matter or shoudl I somehow import from the Wahoo head unit direct?
do you have a workout on the calendar?
Yesterday VO2max PL was 5.3. Then I went out and rode last night:
click on the completed workout and get this:
Click on Match and go back to Calendar view (and I force a browser refresh) and get this:
And now my vo2max PL has changed from 5.3 to 6.9:
@Bigpikle are you using the app or a web browser? Do you have a completed workout and planned workout on the calendar?
Believe people posted above you can add a workout to the calendar after your outdoor ride, match it, and see PL changes
I have a related issue - so far, I’ve done most of my training on Favero Assiomas or a Kickr, which give very similar readings. Now I’m starting to train on my CX bike with a Cinch PM that reads 10+ W lower than the the other two. However, since I just started a new plan (CX specialty) and had an ~8% FTP decrease, I’m crushing workouts on the Assiomas/Kickr and super-crushing them (after accounting for readout differences) on the Cinch.
Thanks again - went back and added a workout and got the association options. Didn’t change my PL though after all that depsite rating a breakthrough as easy.
The whole mess with outdoor workouts is still making AT totally useless for me sadly. Maybe it will be of more value over winter indoors…
Firstly: if I associate an outside ride with a workout which has a Level higher than my own PL in that energy system, then my PL increases. So if that’s not happening in your case then I would email support to investigate.
Having said that, & Secondly: if your outside ride is an unstructured ride (as opposed to a structured workout that you’re performing outside) then I actually see little point in associating that with a workout just to see your PL increase…
Why? Because by doing this you (we!) are simply guessing (a relatively informed guess/estimation, granted, but a guess nonetheless) at the Level of our ride. It will raise our PL(s) - your current issue aside! - but because the Level was guessed at that means that any subsequent workout that AT prescribes for us in that energy system will, in terms of its Level, also be a guess. Major scope for GIGO.
We may as well “cut out the middleman” - skip the association of an unstructured ride with a structured workout - and the next time that we’re due to do a workout in that energy system just choose one manually based upon our own estimation of what we’ll be able to achieve. Just as we’ve always done with TR when we’ve decided that the difficulty of a scheduled workout in our plan doesn’t actually meet our needs (whether too hard or too easy).
This stop-gap functionality that TR introduced allowing us to associate an outside ride with a workout is (primarily) geared towards obtaining appropriate PL credit for structured workouts performed outside, which previously wasn’t always (or often!) occurring due some well documented issues in that area (Wahoo, Strava, compliance assessments being too strict, etc).
In order to obtain measured, “accurate” credit for unstructured outside rides, we’ll all have to wait for TR to complete and then roll out the future update that’s specifically focused on this area. The stuff that Nate’s talked about being in development…
I realise that some people, for reasons of “completeness” - almost as a book-keeping exercise - may wish for their PL profile to fully represent all of their on-bike work, but until that new feature above appears - which may be some time! - I see little point in using a technique (->that of associating unstructured outside rides with structured workouts) that essentially turns some of your PLs into a bunch of guesses. 
I think this is particularly the case for those of us who are currently doing all of our riding (or all of our riding that touches some specific energy systems) outside in an unstructured manner. For example, Endurance type rides for me. It makes more sense for me to just accept that my PL for this energy system is not representative of my actual ability rather than “force” my PL upward to a guessed-at-Level via the association workaround, just so that my ego can be reassured that my Endurance PL isn’t actually a 1.8 
This happened to me yesterday too. I played around for a while associating with the outdoor version marked complete or not and the indoor version, and I did get the PL change I expected once I associated the indoor version. But I swear when I associated some older endurance rides just to see how it worked I had to use the outdoor version marked complete. But at that point I was just playing around and didn’t expect PLs or anything to change so I wasn’t paying careful attention.