My understanding is that the polarized plans are experimental, and not supported as a PB plan in AT. If that’s the case, then someone using a polarized plan, even in PB, would see PL changes, but would not see any adaptations to future workouts on the calendar.
I think that’s been stated somewhere in this long thread, but it would be helpful to have an update on polarized plans and AT would be helpful. @IvyAudrain or others from TR?
Good question. I’ve just been riding, following the workouts it gives me and have seen the numbers on the chart rise steadily. Today’s VO2 Max workout was as below (badged as a 7.6), the last VO2 Max one was badged as a 6.8. I have opened up the link and noticed (for the first time!) that it actually notes progression below the graphs. Doh !
I test very infrequently (hardly ever) - with AT I suspect I’ll only test following either major progress up the levels, or conversely following some hiatus from cycling where I realise my fitness could have shrunk a lot , ie. in circumstances where I feel my number could’ve moved materially, warranting some benchmarking.
ok - so with this in mind what would you recommend - mid volume? If so, which option would be suited?
I was midway through the polarised plans when I was added to the beta. I didn’t see any point in swapping plans until I’d completed them. So I’m doing the workouts but not expecting to see adaptations to those in the future. I’ll do a “standard” plan in PB shortly when I figure out what events/challenges I’ll be doing.
Similar to me, except I was i week 5 of base and decided to go all in on PB/AT so did a new plan, backdated to when I started POL LV. FYI, I have no events in my plan right now.
Great - thanks for the advice 
Thanks for the suggestion I have read through some of the short course stuff, but do need to go back and read through it some more.
I thought this was a New Plan/Beta related issue that should have been kept in mind by TR for the future but I think it is the Workout scoring that made me think about it more. I just went back and realized that Build phase has always had the hardest interval run sandwiched between moderate/hard VO2 rides.
Yeah I think you’re right that the new PLs and AT it highlights the systems/zones being worked per session where the Plan Builder week organiser just says easy/medium/hard or something. But those levels aren’t necessarily true any more I suppose? Not sure. PL 7 doesn’t actually mean hard, nor PL 3 easy. I’m not sure a Stretch workout will always be tough either, so they wouldn’t affect you’re scheduling (if you are following a plan). If you randomly decided to do a Breakthrough I guess you could manually plan that for one of your hard days.
Certainly it might make more sense in Plan Builder to see if you are scheduling a tempo/threshold day or a vo2/sprint rather than medium or hard.
I’ve been getting that for all my outdoor workouts (on Garmin). I choose “didn’t struggle” but never get a bump. So my Threshold PL is still a 2, even though I’m doing 3s and 4s.
I sent support an email regarding it but apparently just a coincidence as my last sweet spot workout at the higher level was two weeks prior so dropped it to the level of the completed outside ride. Made sense when I looked at it like that.
Long day planned, threw ‘Bandeira’ on the calendar and headed out the door with it running on my Garmin 530. Finished the ride and got the failed survey and selected didn’t struggle and got my endurance PL to go from 3 to 10
What actual rating did you choose after the “I didn’t struggle”?
Did you have any long stops of note within the 6hrs? If so, did you pause the recording or let it run?
Likewise, i’ve had no trouble with PL prgressions with Outside Rides on a 530, but i’ve stuck to Endurance and non stop rides so far, hence my interst in what is the effect of cafe stops etc…
I have to say… Adaptive training is very useful.
The fact that it calculate and modify the plan based on 2 weeks off is very useful.
I am not sure how i feel about a ramp test right at the start… But it is what it is
I selected ‘Moderate’. debated on ‘Easy’ but honestly I don’t think 5+ hour rides are ever ‘Easy’ LOL
The occasional bathroom or water stop, nothing more than 5-6 minutes. I assume I got the failed survey because I ended the workout about 45 minutes early as I had finished the planned route.
I got in the AT beta last week, and had done a ramp test 10 or so days prior. When I made a new plan using PB it didn’t schedule a ramp test week 1. Maybe the system just wants a test within a certain time period? And haven’t the plans basically always started with a ramp test?
Yup, aligns with what I have done for similar efforts.
Mine did the same at first - I had just done a ramp test the week before I got in and none scheduled for the first day of the new plan I added once I got in. However I’m thinking it might have been some weirdness with overlapping plans as once I cleaned everything up a ramp test appeared. It took almost two days for that to happen though. Of course YMMV.
